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Old 26-03-2019, 09:46   #601
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Parliament should have refused to vote for Article 50 until the final plan was known and embraced. May should have come to Parliament with a 'desired outcome' for Parliament to approve and then use that at the basis for the following two years.
Makes sense.
So what is the best way forward now? Rescind Article 50 and do what you suggest should have been done from Day One?
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Old 26-03-2019, 11:01   #602
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---------- Post added at 10:01 ---------- Previous post was at 09:24 ----------

https://www.conservativehome.com/hig...ng-at-all.html

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The Moggcast. Deal-or-No-Brexit “becomes the choice eventually…May’s deal is better than not leaving at all”
The penny is dropping but is it too late?
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Full Fact are a reliable and decent organisation, I would 100% take their number
FAKE NEWS! I know it was more, my life experience tells me so. Also, I asked my daughter (who was there) and she agrees with me
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The penny is dropping but is it too late?
Yes the ERG are blinking but it's too late. They twice had the chance to vote for Brexit but didn't, unbelievable. Even with DUP/ERG support the Govt lost last night's vote; so even if they change sides it might not be enough. Meanwhile more more ministers resign and vote the other way.....
The deal is dead, it is a dead deal, it has ceased to exist, it is a dead parrott
More might resign if she doesn't allow a free vote tomorrow.
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Re: Brexit (New).

A function of Parliament is to protect the electorate from themselves. If the electorate really want Brexit they can hold MPs to account at the next General Election. I’d actually encourage them to do so. That’s a healthy democracy at work.
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Old 26-03-2019, 12:55   #606
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Re: Brexit (New).

I feel sorry for the "Stupid" of society that thought leaving meant we retain the same access to the EU as we do now.

I voted with the intention that we left with or without a deal.

I also understood the complications of being tied upto the EU so much that leaving would probably have been complicated but I was prepared to take that chance.

It's just a shame our MP's have their own agenda. I have to put up with the Dirty Richard Burgon up here in Leeds. I won't be voting for him come election time
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Old 26-03-2019, 13:49   #607
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Re: Brexit (New).

BREAKING: Being touted via Journalists that Theresa May to address Conservatives 1922 Committee tomorrow evening (Probably to resign).
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Re: Brexit (New).

No surprise if true Mick.
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Re: Brexit (New).

If true, where would this leave us in terms of extension period/no deal and everything else? Apart from in deeper doo doo than we already are....
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Re: Brexit (New).

Just in from BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg: A lot of Cabinet have just gone back into Number 10 ... not sure why.
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Just in from BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg: A lot of Cabinet have just gone back into Number 10 ... not sure why.
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BREAKING: Being touted via Journalists that Theresa May to address Conservatives 1922 Committee tomorrow evening (Probably to resign).
guess either resign or general election
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guess either resign or general election
Both unlikely to put a end to the current shitshow..
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guess either resign or general election
Maybe she doesn't even know herself. A lot can happen between now and then!
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Both unlikely to put a end to the current shitshow..
agree totally either though I not calling for one maybe a second referendum is only way to sort it out
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