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Old 11-06-2019, 11:19   #46
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

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Technically it was "King and Country". The vast majority are, and will be, not WW2 veterans.
They are still veterans who fought for this country no matter what war it is and its our duty as a country to look after them..
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:24   #47
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

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Technically it was "King and Country". The vast majority are, and will be, not WW2 veterans.


The key stage of financial change is State Pension Age. Going from aged 74 to 75, or 94 to 95, makes little difference. My issue is that the age limit chosen was arbitrary and has no underlying foundation, other than to hand out freebies.
Korea?
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:27   #48
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

Make an exemption for veterans then. I don't really see the argument for deciding benefits based on if some members of the cohort to receive them are veterans or not.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:31   #49
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

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Korea?
So what age limit wouldn't exclude veterans of one sort or another? Theoretically you would have to include everybody in getting a free TV Licence and free everything else.
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

The age limit was imposed by Brown to limit numbers and therefore the cost.

My opinion is the license fee should be scrapped. If the BBC cannot stand on its own 2 feet then tough.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:42   #51
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The age limit was imposed by Brown to limit numbers and therefore the cost.

My opinion is the license fee should be scrapped. If the BBC cannot stand on its own 2 feet then tough.
That gets my vote ,it should sink or swim all on it's own.
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Pensioners aren't the new wealthy, although some certainly are with how property has increased over the years, but they are a demographic largely isolated from austerity whilst the young have been disproportionately hit. You can get away with that for a while but eventually that portion of the electorate gets bigger.
Many from this age group also have final salary pensions which the current near retirees would only dream of. They also retired earlier on these better pensions.
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

the discussion shouldn't be about who gets what for free.

The issue is a state financed broadcaster were the population are forced to pay for whether they watch it or not.

It might have been a good idea 60 odd years ago, but time has most definitely moved on, and now is moving even quicker in regards to how the population consume their entertainment and news.

The licence fee model is outdated and not fit for purpose in this age.
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

The problem is that the BBC’s size and reach is such that disrupting it in any way is not a trivial business. Putting it behind a paywall would reduce its income substantially with implications for those directly employed by the Beeb and also by the creative agencies it engages to make content for it. Making it a commercial PSB on the same model as ITV would disrupt the entire broadcasting landscape in the UK by creating a lot more advert space and driving down its value. Changing the BBC’s funding model is also politically difficult as the BBC enjoys widespread public support.
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

A problem with the Licence fee model of funding is they have a relatively reliable known income and will spend ALL of it. They don't say, "this is how much we need" and adjust the fee accordingly.
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Re: BBC to scrap free licence fee for over-75s

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Oh yes let's scrap it.Why should those veterans in their 90's get anything free? Why should the generation that stood firm get anything for free?

In case anyone missed it irony alert.
There are plenty of freeview channels other than the BBC.

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How is it irrelevant as many veterans fought for Queen and Country and if we cannot look after them then this country really should be ashamed of itself.
And how many World War II veterans are there left now? Are they all poor? Of course they are not.

If those veterans were to have a free licence, that would be much more affordable than making it available to all over 75s.
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And how many World War II veterans are there left now? Are they all poor? Of course they are not.

If those veterans were to have a free licence, that would be much more affordable than making it available to all over 75s.
l am talking about all veterans..
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l am talking about all veterans..
So you are proposing that all veterans, regardless of wealth, should have a free TV licence?
Free food for the poor ones would do more good.
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So you are proposing that all veterans, regardless of wealth, should have a free TV licence?
They have put their life on ther line for King and Country so its not much to ask is it..

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Free food for the poor ones would do more good.
That is for another thread but for some to be starving is a scandal in itself seeing we are one of the richest countries in the world.
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They have put their life on ther line for King and Country so its not much to ask is it..

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That is for another thread but for some to be starving is a scandal in itself seeing we are one of the richest countries in the world.
So, should are current serving forces or those such as the police, firefighters, paramedics also be issued with a free license ? Where exactly do we draw the line?

We have to have a bit of a reality check here, things such as free TV licenses and the winter fuel allowance need to move to being means tested.
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