Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I think we need a list of companies and people who are bullying Scotland and those that aren't....

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think we need a list of companies and people who are bullying Scotland and those that aren't....

I wonder if, after the Scots reject the SNP's nonsense, they'll try to launch a group compensation claim for bullying induced PTSD.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Sir David Ormand, former director of GCHQ, bullies Alex Salmond over his plans for McI5.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...elligence.html

They really haven't thought it all through have they. If it wasn't so pathetic it'd be laughable.

Crazy Alex seems to think he can just set things up at the drop of a hat and all will be well by then end of the first parliament of independence totally showing a complete lack of understanding in terms of military and intelligence matters. What worries me in the unlikely event they voted for independence is that scotland would become the open back door into the rest of the UK while they are trying to get it right. That's just the practical side of setting everything up god alone knows what sums they have dreamed up for the cost but if it's anything like their other sums scottish taxpayers would be in for one hell of a nasty shock at some point.

At this point has this imbecile got any credibility left and does he really believe he can hoodwink the entire scottish electorate with his lofty promises backed up by nothing other then his own hot air oh and that dotty little woman i see on the news a lot spouting similar rubbish. Scotland deserves a much better public face then it has right now hopefully after the no vote work can start on getting a more deserving public face.

[Pierre]

More bullying

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...iness-26559739

[Chad]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

At this point has this imbecile got any credibility left and does he really believe he can hoodwink the entire scottish electorate with his lofty promises backed up by nothing other then his own hot air oh and that dotty little woman i see on the news a lot spouting similar rubbish. Scotland deserves a much better public face then it has right now hopefully after the no vote work can start on getting a more deserving public face.

Agreed

RUSI becomes the latest organisation to kick Aleck to the ground and take his dinner money:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tal-flaws.html

Alex Salmond's intelligence plan for independence is a "hollow initiative" designed to create the facade of security and contains "fundamental" flaws, one of Britain's top defence think tanks has said.
The SNP's estimated costs for a new security agency are "entirely meaningless" while their position on Trident will cause "major ructions" with allies, the Royal United Services Institute (Rusi) warned.

[Jimi]

Hopefully,all those wee firms will leave us after our Independence is won,it will be great tae see them leave with their tails firmly between their legs.

I notice a few on here have quoted from the Telegraph recently yet nobody dared tae add this wee bit,funny that,eh?
Sqeaky bum time for Labour.

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Fears grow in Cabinet of a "constitutional crisis" which would put the election in doubt, as legal expert warns that Scottish independence could bring down the next government

The 2015 general election will be thrown into turmoil if Scotland votes for independence in September’s referendum, according to government legal advice.

An election is scheduled to be held on May 7 next year but by then Scotland could already be preparing to separate from the rest of the United Kingdom.

Independence would make Scotland less secure, Philip Hammond warns
David Cameron: Scotland to be allowed to set own taxes
Scottish MPs 'to continue shaping English law after independence vote'
The leading lawyer who wrote the Westminster government’s legal advice on Scottish independence is now warning that a “Yes” vote in the referendum would have major ramifications for the election, and could destabilise the next British government.

Cabinet ministers fear that if Alex Salmond’s independence campaign succeeds, the general election would be in grave doubt, plunging Britain into an unprecedented “constitutional crisis”.

In a memorandum for the House of Lords, Professor Alan Boyle, a specialist in international law at Edinburgh University, outlined two options for the election if Scotland chooses independence on September 18.

Emergency laws could be passed months before the election to ban the 59 Scottish constituencies from taking part and hold polls only in England, Wales and Northern Ireland next May, he said.

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"Less secure."
Aye,in yer dreams laddie.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Jimi

Hopefully,all those wee firms will leave us after our Independence is won,it will be great tae see them leave with their tails firmly between their legs.

Yes because the loss of thousands of jobs, millions in tax revenue and all the associated business that large firms support will be excellent news for the economy of a new Scotland.

The SNP are doing the labour "bankers bonuses" trick of pledging to fill several huge budget holes from the same source, the same source that's dropped in value over the last fee years and will continue to do so.

Don't worry I'm sure fat eck has a plan to set up a barter system where everything is paid for with ginger bottles and fried mars bars.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek

Yes because the loss of thousands of jobs, millions in tax revenue and all the associated business that large firms support will be excellent news for the economy of a new Scotland.

The SNP are doing the labour "bankers bonuses" trick of pledging to fill several huge budget holes from the same source, the same source that's dropped in value over the last fee years and will continue to do so.

Don't worry I'm sure fat eck has a plan to set up a barter system where everything is paid for with ginger bottles and fried mars bars.

Look humourless drone stop bullying Jimi with facts and away and enjoy your freedom, you've nestled under the yoke of English oppression to long

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek

Yes because the loss of thousands of jobs, millions in tax revenue and all the associated business that large firms support will be excellent news for the economy of a new Scotland.
The SNP are doing the labour "bankers bonuses" trick of pledging to fill several huge budget holes from the same source, the same source that's dropped in value over the last fee years and will continue to do so.

Don't worry I'm sure fat eck has a plan to set up a barter system where everything is paid for with ginger bottles and fried mars bars.

Well it won't be all bad, just think how much quieter it'll be up there if the SNP gets its way...

Salmond does like to have his cake and eat it. I reckon he should put his money where his mouth is and go for total independence not his version which is akin to children leaving home but popping back every weekend when the cupboard's empty, the money's run out and the dirty washing needs doing. I've often heard Salmond claim that an independent Scotland would be a good friend to its immediate neighbours, however that promise seems to be predicated on the SNP being able to choose its obligations/commitments as if it were filling a pick 'n' mix bag at Woolworths.

Originally Posted by Jimi

Hopefully,all those wee firms will leave us after our Independence is won,it will be great tae see them leave with their tails firmly between their legs.

I notice a few on here have quoted from the Telegraph recently yet nobody dared tae add this wee bit,funny that,eh?
Sqeaky bum time for Labour.

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Fears grow in Cabinet of a "constitutional crisis" which would put the election in doubt, as legal expert warns that Scottish independence could bring down the next government

The 2015 general election will be thrown into turmoil if Scotland votes for independence in September’s referendum, according to government legal advice.

An election is scheduled to be held on May 7 next year but by then Scotland could already be preparing to separate from the rest of the United Kingdom.

Independence would make Scotland less secure, Philip Hammond warns
David Cameron: Scotland to be allowed to set own taxes
Scottish MPs 'to continue shaping English law after independence vote'
The leading lawyer who wrote the Westminster government’s legal advice on Scottish independence is now warning that a “Yes” vote in the referendum would have major ramifications for the election, and could destabilise the next British government.

Cabinet ministers fear that if Alex Salmond’s independence campaign succeeds, the general election would be in grave doubt, plunging Britain into an unprecedented “constitutional crisis”.

In a memorandum for the House of Lords, Professor Alan Boyle, a specialist in international law at Edinburgh University, outlined two options for the election if Scotland chooses independence on September 18.

Emergency laws could be passed months before the election to ban the 59 Scottish constituencies from taking part and hold polls only in England, Wales and Northern Ireland next May, he said.

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"Less secure."
Aye,in yer dreams laddie.

Yes, kind of makes you wonder why all those Tories are so against separatism. It's almost as if they think it's a genuinely bad idea.

The SNP are very unhappy with Andrew Marr daring to suggest on his programme there may be others with a different viewpoint to theirs.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ependence.html

The row broke out during an increasingly testy interview on Sunday morning on BBC One’s Andrew Marr Show during which Mr Salmond repeated his claim an independent Scotland would start life in the EU.

After the presenter suggested otherwise, the First Minister reacted with outrage and harangued the presenter as to whether this was the “Andrew Marr analysis” or the corporation’s point of view.

But Mr Marr referred to an interview he conducted last month with Jose Manuel Barroso in which the European Commission President said it would be “extremely difficult, if not impossible” for a separate Scotland to join the EU.

He told Mr Salmond that Mr Barroso had been “absolutely adamant in private and in public on the sofa” and that he claimed to be speaking for “many other” European leaders.....

.....Mr Wishart took to the social networking website Twitter to state the interview was “the worst” the BBC has done on independence and Mr Marr “should just get his Better Together T-shirt out”.
The SNP broadcasting spokesman praised Mr Salmond for being “very restrained” but added: “Think there’ll be consequences for Marr.”....

.....A BBC spokesman said: "Andrew himself made it clear on air that he had not been intending to express a personal opinion or that of the BBC, but was simply putting forward an argument from President Barroso who, as European Commission President, has an integral insight within the debate....

Salmond has totally lost it. They have all totally lost it. All they have left in the armoury is victimhood.

[nomadking]

I would have thought that Marr putting forward an alternate viewpoint would have given them an ideal opportunity to point out any supposed errors and flaws in those views. The fact that instead, they got all in a huff about it, says it all.

[Mr Angry]

Other opinions.

"The Scottish Parliament has heard a number of incredibly eminent witnesses explain how and why Scotland would continue as a member of the EU on independence. That appears to have been ignored by the Andrew Marr programme in favour of an opinion from the President of the Commission that has been roundly rejected by EU experts. Any assessment of the balance of evidence would show an independent Scotland continuing in the EU."

Easy to see why Salmond got into such a tizz.