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Old 05-07-2020, 23:17   #91
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

Hamilton knew it was coming, because Albon had tried it at the previous corner. Once you've been passed, the racing line is irrelevant. You have to defer to the driver now in front of you. Hamilton should've gone slightly to his right to avoid the collision. Plenty of room to do so. There was no room for Albon to move left, as can be seen by the fact his left front wheel was inches away from the kerb at the moment of collision. Hamilton had 2 car widths to his right.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

If he knew there was a car on the outside then Hamilton should of stayed on the inside. It was a good race though, Hamilton and Bottas did good to keep 1st and 2nd when both couldn't even take a proper racing line due to a fault in their cars.
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The stewards (ex drivers) apparently didn't agree with you.
The same stewards that overturned their decision moments before the race. Doesn’t mean they are correct.

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Hamilton knew it was coming, because Albon had tried it at the previous corner. Once you've been passed, the racing line is irrelevant. You have to defer to the driver now in front of you. Hamilton should've gone slightly to his right to avoid the collision. Plenty of room to do so. There was no room for Albon to move left, as can be seen by the fact his left front wheel was inches away from the kerb at the moment of collision. Hamilton had 2 car widths to his right.
He hadn't been passed entering the corner on which he had the racing line. While F1 cars are amazing, I'm guessing that once a move is in motion, its not just as easy to turn to the right a little, especially as it looked like he was on full lock, though obviously we don't know if he was. Do you mean the same kerbs they had been using for the full race? The same kerb the driver infront of Hamilton was on as the contact happened. There was space all be it a small space. Albon choose the outside were there was always going to be little space.

The above is racing, know one should be at fault, it was a racing incident.

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If he knew there was a car on the outside then Hamilton should of stayed on the inside. It was a good race though, Hamilton and Bottas did good to keep 1st and 2nd when both couldn't even take a proper racing line due to a fault in their cars.
Hamilton had the racing line when entering the corner. He also left enough space on the outside as can be seen in the picture posted on here.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

The "racing line" isn't the only line. If it was there would be no overtaking at all. On the approach to the corner, Hamilton was inside of the racing line, and Albon was on it. That can be seen by the rubber on the tarmac and the driver in front of them. The fact that Albon was very near the outside kerb, demonstrates he left room for Hamilton. Again, comparing with the driver in front of them, Hamilton pulled away from the inside of the corner at an earlier stage. If that driver could stay close to the inside, why couldn't Hamilton? A few laps later a similar situation at the same corner, with Norris and Leclerc. Leclerc on the inside used these things called brakes.
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The "racing line" isn't the only line. If it was there would be no overtaking at all. On the approach to the corner, Hamilton was inside of the racing line, and Albon was on it. That can be seen by the rubber on the tarmac and the driver in front of them. The fact that Albon was very near the outside kerb, demonstrates he left room for Hamilton. Again, comparing with the driver in front of them, Hamilton pulled away from the inside of the corner at an earlier stage. If that driver could stay close to the inside, why couldn't Hamilton? A few laps later a similar situation at the same corner, with Norris and Leclerc. Leclerc on the inside used these things called brakes.
I never said it was the only line, but its the most important line in racing. You're talking about no racing, but putting blame on one person for this accident is promoting no racing.

While the build up is important, it's rather irrelevant to the incident. As entering the corner Hamilton was infront on the racing line and left enough space for Albon to be on the outside.

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I never said it was the only line, but its the most important line in racing. You're talking about no racing, but putting blame on one person for this accident is promoting no racing.

While the build up is important, it's rather irrelevant to the incident. As entering the corner Hamilton was infront on the racing line and left enough space for Albon to be on the outside.
And Albon DID move to the outside. He was inches away from the outside kerb, while Hamilton MOVED to 2 car widths away from the inside kerb.
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And Albon DID move to the outside. He was inches away from the outside kerb, while Hamilton MOVED to 2 car widths away from the inside kerb.
Moving away from the inside kerb when you have took the corner is how you are supposed to take a corner. Inches of space when beside him or now infront is a cars width gap which is what you are supposed to leave. Albon didn't want to go onto the kerbs as he had already had to go wide and Hamilton didn't want to give up the racing line. A racing incident.

Just to clarify your bold of moved. What do you think happens during a race? You stay still? The very nature of a car going around a corner is it moves from from the inside to the outside. The on board shot from Hamilton shows he seemed to be on full lock and didn't move the steering wheel to steer to the outside of the track, it was just the natural progression of taking a corner on the racing line.
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Moving away from the inside kerb when you have took the corner is how you are supposed to take a corner. Inches of space when beside him or now infront is a cars width gap which is what you are supposed to leave. Albon didn't want to go onto the kerbs as he had already had to go wide and Hamilton didn't want to give up the racing line. A racing incident.

Just to clarify your bold of moved. What do you think happens during a race? You stay still? The very nature of a car going around a corner is it moves from from the inside to the outside. The on board shot from Hamilton shows he seemed to be on full lock and didn't move the steering wheel to steer to the outside of the track, it was just the natural progression of taking a corner on the racing line.
That is why it wasn't a racing incident and he was penalised.
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That is why it wasn't a racing incident and he was penalised.
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That is why it wasn't a racing incident and he was penalised.
Diasgree totally. The photo evidence in here alone shows that Hamilton left enough room on the outside. Both drivers are within the right to attack/defend their position. Should have been a racing incident.
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Fernando Alonso is set to return to Formula 1 with Renault next year.

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Fernando Alonso is set to return to Formula 1 with Renault next year.



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Confirmed.

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That came totally out of the blue but most welcome.
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It's likely to be raining cats and dogs for the Austrian GP #2 qualifying session, if it gets cancelled then qualifying will take place Sunday morning, if this also gets cancelled then Free Practice 2 gets used to set the grid.

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Free Practice 3 has been cancelled, rain being removed from the roof of Mclarens hospitality zone.

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