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Old 31-12-2019, 14:43   #7111
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Haha, context Old Boy. Please provide context!

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...d-switzerland/

The reality is neither country really used DTT at all. Indeed, SRG are recommending people switch to Eutelsat's satellite broadcasts. So it isn't the end of traditional television as we know it, not by a long shot.

There's no plan in place for the UK to cease DTT transmissions by any such date. Considering it took 14 years to move from analogue to digital, announced years in advance of launch in 1998, I think you are somewhat aspirational.
The BBC is planning for that eventuality - I mentioned this and provided my source some months ago. But of course, that doesn't suit your argument, so you ignore it. So, dream on, jfman, dream on.
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I suspect we will still be here in 2034 with Old Boy clutching at the end of a very narrow straw.
Hopefully l might still be here much to his disappointment..
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Old 31-12-2019, 15:32   #7113
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The BBC is planning for that eventuality - I mentioned this and provided my source some months ago. But of course, that doesn't suit your argument, so you ignore it. So, dream on, jfman, dream on.
Please provide said source again. Specifically where it says they will not broadcast via DTT by 2030, or linear on any platform (indeed even IPTV still counts as linear).

The BBC like any reasonable organisation are making future planning, which obviously streaming is a part of. However as always Old Boy, the source information plus your own flawed analysis gives you the answer you were looking for - unsurprisingly.
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Old 31-12-2019, 17:46   #7114
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The BBC is planning for that eventuality - I mentioned this and provided my source some months ago. But of course, that doesn't suit your argument, so you ignore it. So, dream on, jfman, dream on.
Good friend of mine (known him since ‘94, worked with him twice in that time period) is a Network Technical Architect with the BBC (deeply involved in planning for the medium and long-term future for the BBC networks and transmission capabilities) disagrees with you...

He is currently involved (a small part if his job) in replacing 128Kb ISDN links (used for the Outside Broadcasting voice links) from football stadiums with 5G links - the ISDN links have been in place since the early 80s. The BBC sweats its assets, and doesn’t replace stuff because something "shiny" comes on stream.

The BBC put an options paper together, one of those options was no DTT, but that was in the "very unlikely" category...
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Old 31-12-2019, 19:45   #7115
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Ah, ISDN ... I remember using bonded ISDN lines for videoconferencing maybe 10 years ago, when internet speeds even in fairly large city office buildings just weren’t reliable enough. I’m not surprised the BBC has stuck with them until now - the quality is perfectly adequate for radio and the reliability is rock solid. It just works, much as DTT just works, much as scheduled broadcast TV just works. Things that just work don’t get chucked out just because something new appears.
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Happy New Year folks. And in two minutes time to anyone who was streaming.

Here's to the next fifteen.
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Happy New Year folks. And in two minutes time to anyone who was streaming.

Here's to the next fifteen.
I get in trouble with the missus every year by loudly counting down to new year from my properly synchronised watch while everyone else in the room is gawping at the TV ... at least the digital TV delay seems to be down to about 5 seconds these days but IP streaming is still awful.

Happy new year anyway, whenever it happened.
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I get in trouble with the missus every year by loudly counting down to new year from my properly synchronised watch while everyone else in the room is gawping at the TV ... at least the digital TV delay seems to be down to about 5 seconds these days but IP streaming is still awful.

Happy new year anyway, whenever it happened.
Right on cue we get the ships in the sound sounding their horns off and if that was not enough the firework shows which we can see go off from our place every year.
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Old 01-01-2020, 13:21   #7119
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I get in trouble with the missus every year by loudly counting down to new year from my properly synchronised watch while everyone else in the room is gawping at the TV ... at least the digital TV delay seems to be down to about 5 seconds these days but IP streaming is still awful.

Happy new year anyway, whenever it happened.
This haha when my google hub hits midnight, seconds before the tv.
Happy new year all here's to a fantastic 2020 for everyone.
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On another note, just seen that the top six grossing movies in the US are all from Disney.
  • Avengers: Endgame
  • The Lion King
  • Toy Story 4
  • Frozen II
  • Captain Marvel
  • Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker

This should help ensure Disney + is a success.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/2...alendarGrosses
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On another note, just seen that the top six grossing movies in the US are all from Disney.
  • Avengers: Endgame
  • The Lion King
  • Toy Story 4
  • Frozen II
  • Captain Marvel
  • Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker

This should help ensure Disney + is a success.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/2...alendarGrosses

Something Netflix can only dream about....
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Something Netflix can only dream about....
Funny considering The Witcher has been the biggest show of the year streamwise.
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Funny considering The Witcher has been the biggest show of the year streamwise.
In terms of bankable value Disney's formidable and deep library of current and past content makes it far more valuable.
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In terms of bankable value Disney's formidable and deep library of current and past content makes it far more valuable.
Oh absolutely i agree with you on that but even Disney don't have bottomless pockets.
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Interesting viewpoint on yhe future of DTT from The House of Lords Select Committee on Communications and Digital - 1st Report of Session 2019 - published 5th November 2019.

https://publications.parliament.uk/p...muni/16/16.pdf

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250. Digital UK argued that DTT was necessary to safeguard the universal free availability of public service broadcasting. It noted that the future delivery of all TV through the internet was “conceivable” but it highlighted a number of challenges for this prospect. Broadband is still not universal: 13 per cent of adults do not have it. Broadband is associated with a monthly subscription contract which undermines the notion of ‘free TV’. It is also not as reliable or secure, and the internet TV industry is still developing.

251. Digital terrestrial television (DTT) will remain a major way for people to access linear television. The Government and Ofcom must ensure the continued provision of free spectrum for PSB output through DTT.
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Oh absolutely i agree with you on that but even Disney don't have bottomless pockets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp.../#6bf40d5556b0
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Disney’s Strategy Is Working

Disney+ is here, and it’s already beating expectations. Analysts projected it would take the rest of 2019 – about seven weeks – for the new streaming service to reach 8 million subscribers.

It hit 10 million in one day.

The huge launch for Disney+ reaffirms what I’ve been saying for the past three years. Disney’s unparalleled collection of IP, unique brand, and superior content monetization capabilities give it a significant competitive advantage over Netflix (NFLX) and every other content company. The Walt Disney Company (DIS) is this week’s Long Idea.

It’s All About Franchise IP: Quality Over Quantity

495 scripted TV shows aired in 2018. The average consumer can’t watch that much TV or even attempt to sort through it to figure out what’s best. Anyone who has Netflix or any other streaming service knows the terrible feeling of scrolling through a seemingly endless list of shows and not being sure what to watch.

Research shows that when viewers are faced with so many options, they tend to retreat to the programs with which they’re most familiar. That’s why The Office and Friends consistently rank as the most-watched shows on Netflix, and why the loss of those shows is such a huge blow to the streaming service.

Disney stands to benefit as consumers become more overwhelmed by the amount of content and gravitate towards familiar characters and franchises. No other company can boast the familiarity or the same level of franchise IP. Figure 1 shows that Disney has produced[1] 11 billion dollar films over the past three years, more than double every other studio combined.
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