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Old 01-08-2020, 17:17   #7861
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Like all good armchair experts, you pose questions and insert caveats (‘probably’), demanding evidence and answers from others while all you ever do is promote your speculation. You’ve been at it for years, yet all we ever see are new linear channels popping up and streamers racking up massive debts trying to chase an audience that’s a fraction of the size.

Netflix is presently trumpeting the success of The Umbrella academy, whose first season was viewed in 45 million households - worldwide. The Umbrella Academy is great TV and a big success for Netflix, but even now it’s still niche. Pay-TV, regardless of how it’s delivered, always will be.
Really, what about all those people who pay to watch Sky Sports, for instance, I wouldn't call that niche, I do not know the actual subscription figures but I'd hazard a guess that they must be quite high.

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Like all good armchair experts, you pose questions and insert caveats (‘probably’), demanding evidence and answers from others while all you ever do is promote your speculation. You’ve been at it for years, yet all we ever see are new linear channels popping up and streamers racking up massive debts trying to chase an audience that’s a fraction of the size.

Netflix is presently trumpeting the success of The Umbrella academy, whose first season was viewed in 45 million households - worldwide. The Umbrella Academy is great TV and a big success for Netflix, but even now it’s still niche. Pay-TV, regardless of how it’s delivered, always will be.
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Really, what about all those people who pay to watch Sky Sports, for instance, I wouldn't call that niche, I do not know the actual subscription figures but I'd hazard a guess that they must be quite high.

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How long did it take you to think that up, Chris....
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Old 01-08-2020, 20:01   #7864
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Easily - it wasn’t scalable, and wasn’t cost-effective to implement.

From the BBC at the time
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Old 01-08-2020, 20:03   #7865
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Much can be achieved in 15 years.
And snails might make their way to the moon by then.
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Old 01-08-2020, 20:08   #7866
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How long did it take you to think that up, Chris....
Chris comes out with some very thoughtful and interesting posts, and I respect bis opinions, but I am surprised that he didn't understand your point, and I do think he has a blind spot when it comes to the future of TV.

Notwithstanding that, it is good to be challenged, I guess.

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And snails might make their way to the moon by them.
That's the difference between us, Den. I think lightning and you think snails.

Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between!
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Old 01-08-2020, 23:13   #7867
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Advertisers will not be interested in paying good money to advertise their products to a small and probably not very wealthy audience.

As I've said before, audience levels do not have to reach anywhere near as low as 1% before traditional linear TV is ended. If we waited for everyone to convert voluntarily to digital TV, we would still have analogue as a choice.
So you’re now advocating state intervention to shut down linear television?
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Old 02-08-2020, 09:07   #7868
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Much can be achieved in 15 years.
Which is another way of saying "something magic can happen"...

I’ve spoken to people involved in long-term planning of Broadcast TV, you’re just basing your forecasts on "here’s hoping...".
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Old 02-08-2020, 09:34   #7869
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Which is another way of saying "something magic can happen"...

I’ve spoken to people involved in long-term planning of Broadcast TV, you’re just basing your forecasts on "here’s hoping...".
On the one hand, Old Boy does have the benefit of over fourteen years' development time for this development to be worked on, and this is something that will be of benefit globally and to massive companies like Amazon.

On the other hand, we we saw what happened with Old Boy's here's-hoping approach when it came to his magical unicorn technology for the Irish border post Brexit. Boris realised it was nonsense and decided to roll over and concede a border between GB & NI.
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So you’re now advocating state intervention to shut down linear television?
Possibly, as the bandwidth may need to be hijacked for 5G, but although you and I disagree on this, I believe that there will be no financial incentive to justify the continuation of the TV channels over time. We are nowhere near that yet, though.
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Possibly, as the bandwidth may need to be hijacked for 5G, but although you and I disagree on this, I believe that there will be no financial incentive to justify the continuation of the TV channels over time. We are nowhere near that yet, though.
That wouldn’t necessarily impact satellite or cable though. Plus it’d have to make commercial sense to do so.
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That wouldn’t necessarily impact satellite or cable though. Plus it’d have to make commercial sense to do so.
That's not what I read, but hey, ho.
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Mulan going straight to Disney+.

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In a first for Disney+, though, Mulan will not be available to subscribers as part of the service’s regular programming; instead it will cost an additional $29.99 to watch the film. (According to reports, once customers pay to watch Mulan they will have “access to the film for as long as they remain subscribers to the service.”) One can assume that at some later date, the film will be made available as part of the Disney+ monthly subscription fee, but Disney offered no timeline for that.)
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An additional $29.99?!!!
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Sounds a bit steep! How much do they charge for cinema admission in the States?
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