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Old 02-10-2021, 10:50   #2686
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… and yet if you actually go out to a supermarket you’ll find fruit and meat on the shelves and fuel in the forecourt. It’s almost as if a few localised problems are being blown up into apparent crises to serve some agenda or other. I can’t imagine what that would be.
See the petrol map - availability differs across the country and for those outside London/South East/East Anglia fuel availability has improved. But that still leaves a chunk of the population including the capital where it hasn't.
https://news.sky.com/story/fuel-cris...ntrol-12422907

In terms of food shortages, you may be blessed in this area too. No one's saying the shelves are barren but there definitely have been basic things that supermarkets have run out of which I routinely buy which I've had to visit a second supermarket for.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

Differences in supermarkets could be down to who supplies/employs the HGV drivers.
Are they supermarket direct employees, agency, 3rd party . . ?
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Old 02-10-2021, 11:05   #2688
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Wow, this is the exact reason why remoaners say things like leavers don't know what they're talking about, what testing and training are required to pick an apple of a tree or carry a carcass and they were saying it about bricklaying and tradesmen jobs rather than the fruit farm or abattoirs, warehouses had sorted themselves out by the time of the vote in my experience




Not enough to fill the vacancies there weren't and why are we filling them with the dregs and workshy and guess what there still aren't enough so those perfectly good businesses will eventually close just because they can't get anyone to work in them[COLOR="Silver"]
The people were there, but they preferred to stay at home on benefits.

Cut off benefits to those who won't work and see what happens.
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… and yet if you actually go out to a supermarket you’ll find fruit and meat on the shelves and fuel in the forecourt. It’s almost as if a few localised problems are being blown up into apparent crises to serve some agenda or other. I can’t imagine what that would be.
See how much of it is made in Britain in a year and how expensive it is compared to the foreign stuff, we'll soon find out how patriotic we really are when it comes to cold hard cash

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The people were there, but they preferred to stay at home on benefits.

Cut off benefits to those who won't work and see what happens.
But they weren't there, if you're talking about the 100k or so long term unemployed then there's not enough of them and most of them are unemployable and yet they're the answer to feeding the nation, they can't be trusted to turn up fit for work and on time two nights running but that's okay we'll put them in charge of the nations food and whilst we are at it, most meat processing plants abattoirs and orchards are out of town, how are these feckless wretches supposed to get there
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Old 02-10-2021, 14:36   #2690
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See how much of it is made in Britain in a year and how expensive it is compared to the foreign stuff, we'll soon find out how patriotic we really are when it comes to cold hard cash
Turkey production in the UK has been slashed by 20% this year. For the first time in 15 years, supermarkets will be turning to the EU to fill the gap. France and Poland are cited as the suppliers according to Paul Kelly at KellyBronze, a free range turkey farm.
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Turkey production in the UK has been slashed by 20% this year. For the first time in 15 years, supermarkets will be turning to the EU to fill the gap. France and Poland are cited as the suppliers according to Paul Kelly at KellyBronze, a free range turkey farm.
Bloody turkeys, coming over here and taking over our dinners…..
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Why have turkey? Get a goose, duck, game birds, capon, etc.
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We’re getting our turkey from the local farm shop. Locally raised, and not a trace of horse.

I’m not buying EU stuff now if I can avoid it. I hope this government finds alternative countries to do business with in place of the EU. They are treating us so badly, we shouldn’t be giving them our business.
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We’re getting our turkey from the local farm shop. Locally raised, and not a trace of horse.

I’m not buying EU stuff now if I can avoid it. I hope this government finds alternative countries to do business with in place of the EU. They are treating us so badly, we shouldn’t be giving them our business.
They are treating us badly?

This is entirely self inflicted. At least now the politicians are admitting supply chain problems so their acolytes in the press and on social media don’t have to pretend there aren’t any.

If only this could have been foreseen.
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We’re getting our turkey from the local farm shop. Locally raised, and not a trace of horse.

I’m not buying EU stuff now if I can avoid it. I hope this government finds alternative countries to do business with in place of the EU. They are treating us so badly, we shouldn’t be giving them our business.
We shouldn’t sell stuff to them either - that’ll teach them!
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They are treating us badly?

This is entirely self inflicted. At least now the politicians are admitting supply chain problems so their acolytes in the press and on social media don’t have to pretend there aren’t any.

If only this could have been foreseen.
Supply chain integrated with the EU …
We leave the EU …
Supply chain must be disentangled from the EU.

That’s a fairly uncontroversial, straightforward thought process and one which was helpfully banged on about by the Remain campaign throughout the referendum. And yet, judging that the end result would be worth the effort, the majority voted for it anyway.

This isn’t the end result of Brexit. This is the process of getting Brexit done. And every missed truckload only further underlines our strategic weakness within the EU.
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Supply chain integrated with the EU …
We leave the EU …
Supply chain must be disentangled from the EU.

That’s a fairly uncontroversial, straightforward thought process and one which was helpfully banged on about by the Remain campaign throughout the referendum. And yet, judging that the end result would be worth the effort, the majority voted for it anyway.

This isn’t the end result of Brexit. This is the process of getting Brexit done. And every missed truckload only further underlines our strategic weakness within the EU.
Nobody said it was a controversial thought process. It’s the fact it’s so blatantly obvious is why some sort of mitigation strategy could (or should) have been in place.

I do however think it’s quite a leap to say that every missed truckload shows our own strategic weakness anywhere other than here.

Getting Brexit Done is a lovely phrase. Captures the attention of those with a low attention span just enough to appear to have superficial meaning. However it glosses over the fact that when you scratch beneath the surface there is no plan other than to shrug shoulders and blame the private sector/public at large.

Dare I ask at what point would the Government become accountable? After the 50 years Rees-Mogg speculated it could take for the UK to be better off?

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Supply chain integrated with the EU …
We leave the EU …
Supply chain must be disentangled from the EU.

That’s a fairly uncontroversial, straightforward thought process and one which was helpfully banged on about by the Remain campaign throughout the referendum. And yet, judging that the end result would be worth the effort, the majority voted for it anyway.

This isn’t the end result of Brexit. This is the process of getting Brexit done. And every missed truckload only further underlines our strategic weakness within the EU.
Quite the opposite seems to be happening. UK agricultural sector downsized, existing UK supply chains phased out in favour of EU suppliers.
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Quite the opposite seems to be happening. UK agricultural sector downsized, existing UK supply chains phased out in favour of EU suppliers.
But have you not previously warned that Brexit would prevent us getting stuff from EU suppliers? Make up your mind …
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But have you not previously warned that Brexit would prevent us getting stuff from EU suppliers? Make up your mind …
I don't recall every post on the subject, but it's likely that someone warned it would be harder.
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