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Old 13-06-2022, 14:19   #421
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Re: Freeview changes

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Thought it might be. No worries.

I was just thinking, what with E4's demographic being less into broadcast, maybe Channel 4 would sacrifice E4+1 on Freeview and keep the New 4Music on the platform. A music channel would surely be more worthwhile on Freeview than a timeshift. Just an idea.
Broadband TV News web site is reporting the EPG Channels for both E4 Extra and 4Music from June 29th as followed:

*The new E4 Extra will take the EPG slot currently held by 4Music (Freeview 31, Virgin 337, Sky 139, Freesat 181 and YouView 31).

*4Music will move to replace Box Hits on the EPG (Virgin 336, Sky 354 and Freesat 501).

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Old 13-06-2022, 14:29   #422
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Just had another thought. If E4+1 remains on DTT, maybe E4 Extra will swap with E4+1 on D3&4, leaving the +1 on COM5.
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Old 13-06-2022, 15:51   #423
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Just had another thought. If E4+1 remains on DTT, maybe E4 Extra will swap with E4+1 on D3&4, leaving the +1 on COM5.
Look like Channel 4 wants E4 +1 on Freeview.

RXTV is reporting that 4Music will close on Freeview on June 29th.

https://twitter.com/rxtv_info/status...39452322123776

---------- Post added at 15:51 ---------- Previous post was at 14:38 ----------

Due to today news that BoxHits will close and E4 Extra set to launch plus 4Music to close on Freeview on June 29th. Here is Channel 4's Monthly Reach numbers for May 2022.

Channel 4 > 39,311
E4 > 19,154
Film4 > 14,767
More4 > 13,718
4seven > 9,797
4Music > 6,196
Magic TV > 1,442
Box Hits > 1,136
Kerrang > 912
Kiss TV > 725
The Box > 759
Kiss TV > 725

With The Box having a same idea of things it broadcast on 4Music if I was working for Channel 4 I would also axe The Box to launch E4 Extra +1.
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Old 13-06-2022, 17:09   #424
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With The Box having a same idea of things it broadcast on 4Music if I was working for Channel 4 I would also axe The Box to launch E4 Extra +1.
If that was the case why are they replacing Box Hits if The Box is "the same thing" as 4Music?

Take that approach to its extreme and there will only be 1 channel left on UK television.

Also, that's just replacing variety (albeit similar) with repeats. You can serve the same demographic with completely different content and get more viewers, that's why there are often many channels that service the same demographic run by the same broadcaster, because running various brands with different content for the same people usually gets more viewers than consolidating them into one channel or replacing with a timeshift channel.

If for instance you closed Really and retained Quest Red, which are supposedly targeting the same demographic, the Really viewers aren't necessarily going to start watching Quest Red, they might hate Quest Red with a passion, and not watch even if some Really shows appear on Quest Red. It might even be that Quest Red viewers might watch less Quest Red if airtime gets taken by Really shows. Quest Red viewers may have different tastes to Really viewers despite being same demographic and virtually the same to outsiders.

E4 back in the day was a very different channel to the old BBC3, and still is, despite being aimed at the same demographic.

Discovery will likely much prefer two channels regularly getting 600,000 viewers each rather than a consolidated channel that gets 750,000 (numbers take from top of head to illustrate a point, there's no source BTW). Because consolidation doesn't result in 100% viewer retention.
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Re: Freeview changes

​First notification I've seen, outside of the BBC HD news, of a channel talking about COM7 closure.

PBS America +1 will, unsurprisingly, be closing rather than finding a new home on a free DTT broadcast stream.

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Old 14-06-2022, 23:53   #426
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Re: Freeview changes

Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4
-Old RT slot on COM6
-Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux

Part time slots:
-Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only)
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

All information right as of June 2nd.

All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview by July 2022.

SD:
*FreeSports
*Quest Red+1
*Now 80s
*More4+1
*That's TV (UK)
*Forces TV
*Together TV

HD:
*Quest HD
*QVC HD
*QVC Beauty HD

So I think a following may happen (My own views):
*NOW 80s may move to COM6
*Forces TV may move to COM4
*FreeSports may move to LTV Mux
*Together TV will be moving to IPTV

I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.)

I think it safe to say the following is set to close on Freeview:

Quest Red+1
More4+1
That's TV (UK)
Quest HD

What’s changing in June on Freeview:

By:
18th. SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex
22nd. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux.
22nd. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux.
22nd. Up to two SD Channels may launch on BBC B Mux.

June:
30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87.
30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107.
30th. COM7 will close today.

All information is right as of June 14th.
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Old 15-06-2022, 17:39   #427
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Re: Freeview changes

Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4
-Old RT slot on COM6
-Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux

Part time slots:
-Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only)
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

All information right as of June 15th.

All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview by July 2022.

SD:
*FreeSports
*Quest Red+1
*Now 80s
*More4+1
*That's TV (UK)
*Together TV

HD:
*Quest HD
*QVC HD
*QVC Beauty HD

I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.)

What’s changing in June on Freeview:

By:
18th. SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex
22nd. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux.
22nd. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux.
22nd. Up to two SD Channels may launch on BBC B Mux.

June:
30th. Horror Channel will become Horror Xtra on Freeview Channel 41*
30th. CBS Justice will become Horror Channel on Freeview Channel 69*.
30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87.
30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96.
30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107.
30th. COM7 will close today.

*Channel numbers may change.

All information is right as of June 15th.
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Re: Freeview changes

UPDATE:

Information from Mike (a516Digital).

-QVC has confirmed its HD channels are leaving Freeview, but viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on channel 16.

-Together is licensed to launch a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel.

Again Thanks Mike.

And RXTV home page says Quest HD will close on Freeview.

I will do an new list update tomorrow after 4pm.
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Re: Freeview changes

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On the back of yesterday's news at Forces TV UK is set to close on June 30th I have been thinking that Talking Pictures may make a bid for Forces TV in a coming days to keep Forces TV on Sky, Freesat and Virgin with a later rebrand to Talking Entertainment that would keep Talking Pictures to broadcast Movies 24/7.

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Towny views:

You don’t need to preface your posts with headlines in bold. You aren’t a newspaper, you’re just somebody posting on an Internet forum, like the rest of us.
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Re: Freeview changes

Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4
-Old RT slot on COM6
-Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux

Part time slots:
-Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only)
-Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only)

All information right as of June 16th.

All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview on June 30th.

EPG > Name:
65. FreeSports
71. Quest Red +1
77. Now 80s
86. More4 +1
91. That's TV (UK)
92. That's Music

I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.)

What’s changing in June on Freeview:

Soon:
-BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels.
-SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex.
-Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel.

June:
30th. COM7 will close today.
30th. Horror Channel will become Horror Xtra on Freeview Channel 41*
30th. CBS Justice will become Horror Channel on Freeview Channel 69*.
30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87.
30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96.
30th. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 106.
30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107.
30th. QVC HD will close today on Freeview Channel 111.
30th. QVC Beauty HD will close today on Freeview Channel 112.
30th. Quest HD will close today on Freeview Channel 114.
30th. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 205.

^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16.

*Channel numbers may change.

All information is right as of June 16th.
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PBS America "In talks" with Freeview over it Freeview broadcasting hours.

A) Move to a 24 hour slot.
B) Having 11pm to 1pm on IPTV.

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PBS America "In talks" with Freeview over it Freeview broadcasting hours.

A) Move to a 24 hour slot.
B) Having 11pm to 1pm on IPTV.

https://twitter.com/MediaBoyUK/statu...55893113475073
Could just be an overeager to please social media person. It's not Freeview that needs talking to, they don't provide the technical side.

---------- Post added at 23:47 ---------- Previous post was at 23:44 ----------

Having said that, the money "saved" from not paying for COM7 might be enough to cover the costs of expanding hours.
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Could just be an overeager to please social media person. It's not Freeview that needs talking to, they don't provide the technical side.

---------- Post added at 23:47 ---------- Previous post was at 23:44 ----------

Having said that, the money "saved" from not paying for COM7 might be enough to cover the costs of expanding hours.
Watch this space. (I have seen unconfirmed information).

---------- Post added at 15:08 ---------- Previous post was at 15:00 ----------

30th CBS Drama renames to RealityXtra (but keeps the same schedule of reality/drama that it shows now)
30th CBS Justice closes and is replaced by Legend (which is essentially the current Horror Channel moving the the entertainment section)
30th Horror Channel is replaced by HorrorXtra (which is just films from 5pm-5am)

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Just saw it - it was a oops on my part.

Unless NOW 80s moves to a new Mux - Freeview viewers will have no TV Music channels from June 29th.
Apart from in Manchester.
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