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Old 21-06-2022, 20:30   #1636
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Offence is taken, not given. Its totally subjective.
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Old 22-06-2022, 00:54   #1638
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No one should be murdered. Period. Let's all agree on that.

Richard's just asking people to be sensible and consider the neuro diversity of the person whose words could be considered offensive before jumping to conclusions.
We understand completely what Richard wants. I am simply explaining that the thinking to rectify these problems is wrong.

No-one on here has justified murdering anyone.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Ok to get back to the original question.How have the police got tough on internet trolls?
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Old 22-06-2022, 11:41   #1640
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Richard, how would the new legislation have stopped this boy from offending someone?It wouldnt, and if the people who were upset couldnt post their responses, they would have confronted him physically.

The Bill would create a raft of unforeseen consequences and it needs to be ditched.

If people are easily offended, maybe they should be discouraged from using social media.
That statement pretty much goes against the egalitarian principles of the internet ?
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Ok to get back to the original question.How have the police got tough on internet trolls?
They haven't have they?
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Old 22-06-2022, 17:34   #1642
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That statement pretty much goes against the egalitarian principles of the internet ?
I said discourage, not prevent. If people are going to be upset by people disagreeing with them, they should be helped to make the right decisions about how to live their lives.

Personally, I get fed up with minorities trying to tell me what to do, and I am not alone in this. So now Im telling them what they should do.
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I said discourage, not prevent. If people are going to be upset by people disagreeing with them, they should be helped to make the right decisions about how to live their lives.

Personally, I get fed up with minorities trying to tell me what to do, and I am not alone in this. So now I’m telling them what they should do.
Just out of curiosity, what minority has tried to tell you what to do, and what was it they tried to tell you to do?
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Old 22-06-2022, 18:04   #1644
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I said discourage, not prevent. If people are going to be upset by people disagreeing with them, they should be helped to make the right decisions about how to live their lives.

Personally, I get fed up with minorities trying to tell me what to do, and I am not alone in this. So now Im telling them what they should do.
By that statement it would appear that you need to be helped with making the right decisions on how to live your life ?
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Old 22-06-2022, 19:17   #1645
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Just out of curiosity, what minority has tried to tell you what to do, and what was it they tried to tell you to do?
Isn't the proposed legislation attempting to do just that following the complaints made by snowflakes?

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By that statement it would appear that you need to be helped with making the right decisions on how to live your life ?
That makes no sense. I am quite sure how I should live my life. But Richard's much anticipated legislation is about minority groups telling me and you what to think.

This is completely wrong. It's nothing more than curtailing free speech, which is exactly what communist types want. I'm not falling into that trap.

Vulnerable people need proper advice on how to live their lives. Clamping down on the majority is not the answer, and sooner or later such an outcome would rebound big time. I want to avoid that, but you seem to be one of those stoking that outcome.
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I said discourage, not prevent. If people are going to be upset by people disagreeing with them, they should be helped to make the right decisions about how to live their lives.

Personally, I get fed up with minorities trying to tell me what to do, and I am not alone in this. So now Im telling them what they should do.
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Isn't the proposed legislation attempting to do just that following the complaints made by snowflakes?.
So its never happened, then?

Your statement was in the Present Tense (The present tense is used for actions which are happening now), but the proposed Legislation is in the future.

Sounds like youre "fed up being told what to do", but actually, no one is telling you what to do
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So its never happened, then?

Your statement was in the Present Tense (The present tense is used for actions which are happening now), but the proposed Legislation is in the future.

Sounds like youre "fed up being told what to do", but actually, no one is telling you what to do
Ahem. I may have said me but I was referring to all of us. Minorities telling us what to do.

Im all for making sure that minorities are not disadvantaged as far as is reasonable, but when they try to tell us what to do, it is a bit much.

The dictatorship of the minoritariat.
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Ahem. I may have said ‘me’ but I was referring to all of us. Minorities telling us what to do.

I’m all for making sure that minorities are not disadvantaged as far as is reasonable, but when they try to tell us what to do, it is a bit much.

The dictatorship of the minoritariat.
A bit presumptuous of you…

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Ok to get back to the original question.How have the police got tough on internet trolls?
The police have toughened up their response in serious cases, such as the incidents where three black footballers were subject to racist remarks last year.

However, rather than burden the already overstretched police force with the task of policing the internet, it was decided to ask site owners to voluntarily police inappropriate content themselves.

This idea of a voluntary code of conduct failed miserably as most appear to be only interested in making money and nothing else.

The Online Safety Bill is a more robust effort to force self regulation onto site owners, administrators, moderators etc by the introduction of new legislation that will, amongst other things, require the people involved to have a statutory duty of care, particularly for the more vulnerable members of society, such as children, the disabled and other protected groups.

Sanctions will include personal fines and imprisonment for failing to do so, so it's imperitive that those that this affects familiarise themselves with the forthcoming legislation.

Ofcom have advised me that the bill is expected to become law in about six months, so we're talking round about Christmas time.

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It's not just our Government that's taking action against trolls.

The first article in this week's Digital Planet looks at the tougher stance being taken by Japan on those who post insults or indulge in cyber bullying. Those who indulge in this behaviour can now be imprisoned after legislation was updated; they say that their constitution prevents free speech from being impacted. This follows the death of a reality star after this was done to her to the extent that she took her own life:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct31

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