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Old 23-08-2019, 09:57   #1306
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We don’t punch enough, we’re handicapped, thanks to the corrupted EU, you and other Remainers, selfishly want to stay aligned to them for weak economic reasons and despite them being corrupted to the core and totally undemocratic, just look at the pathetic European Commission President selection process, they’ve appointed a totally failing German minister, deeply unpopular within Germany and the cancerous EU pretends to be Democratic and you and others should surely to hell know this and want to GTFO of this corrupt institution.
Ever been to Germany Mick ? It's really quite a nice place and the people are some of the most contented and friendliest in Europe. Compare that to the UK. My son might end up working there, they welcome skilled immigrants. If he settles hopefully they.might let me in

We only punch anything these days as we're part of the largest trading block in the world. Once we leave we'll become even more insignificant. The Empire is gone, WW2 is over, this country needs to look to the future, not disappear down a hole of its own making. We'll be left with unskilled grumpy geriatrics, with no healthcare or young folk/tax/resources to look after them.
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Old 23-08-2019, 10:23   #1307
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The USA GDP growth forecast is 2.1% for 2019 (from 2.9% in 2018), 2% in 2020, and 1.8% in 2021.

Japan 0.9% in 2019, 0.7% in 2020, 0.6% in 2021.

Canada 1.9% in 2020, 1.8% 2021

So, no...
According to the IMF, the Eurozone area GDP is forecast to be 1.3 in 2019, 1.5 in 2020 and 1.6 in 2024.

But you have been selective in your quotes. What about China (6.3/6.3/6.1), India (7.3/7.5/7.7), Sub Saharan Africa (3.5/3.7/4.0), Australia (2.1, 2.8, 2.6), Korea (2.6, 2.8, 2.9) for example?

So, yes.
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Old 23-08-2019, 10:56   #1308
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According to the IMF, the Eurozone area GDP is forecast to be 1.3 in 2019, 1.5 in 2020 and 1.6 in 2024.

But you have been selective in your quotes. What about China (6.3/6.3/6.1), India (7.3/7.5/7.7), Sub Saharan Africa (3.5/3.7/4.0), Australia (2.1, 2.8, 2.6), Korea (2.6, 2.8, 2.9) for example?

So, yes.
You're sounding a bit desperate today OB !
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Old 23-08-2019, 11:28   #1309
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According to the IMF, the Eurozone area GDP is forecast to be 1.3 in 2019, 1.5 in 2020 and 1.6 in 2024.

But you have been selective in your quotes. What about China (6.3/6.3/6.1), India (7.3/7.5/7.7), Sub Saharan Africa (3.5/3.7/4.0), Australia (2.1, 2.8, 2.6), Korea (2.6, 2.8, 2.9) for example?

So, yes.
We were talking about the EU, not the Eurozone area (nice try at moving the goalposts, though ).

I thought the 1st and 3rd largest economies was fairly representative, but ymmv...
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Old 23-08-2019, 11:41   #1310
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Ever been to Germany Mick ? It's really quite a nice place and the people are some of the most contented and friendliest in Europe. Compare that to the UK. My son might end up working there, they welcome skilled immigrants. If he settles hopefully they.might let me in

We only punch anything these days as we're part of the largest trading block in the world. Once we leave we'll become even more insignificant. The Empire is gone, WW2 is over, this country needs to look to the future, not disappear down a hole of its own making. We'll be left with unskilled grumpy geriatrics, with no healthcare or young folk/tax/resources to look after them.
Not what some others seem to think.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/...utside-the-eu/
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Old 23-08-2019, 11:45   #1311
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Not what some others seem to think.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/...utside-the-eu/
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Not what some others seem to think.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/...utside-the-eu/
People can have their thoughts whatever way they want as whatever thoughts and views they have they should not be lambasted for it whatever view they have.
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We were talking about the EU, not the Eurozone area (nice try at moving the goalposts, though ).

I thought the 1st and 3rd largest economies was fairly representative, but ymmv...
Not that many EU countries are outside the Eurozone, the UK being one of them.

In terms of trade, GDP is a meaningless figure. India #3 by total, but #126 by per person. You need people with the surplus money to buy things. Most of the population of India haven't got that.

Why should a trade agreement be all about power? That may be how the EU(ie France and Germany) wants to operate, but we want to be away from all that.
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"Not that many"?

9 out of 28 - about a third...
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Old 23-08-2019, 14:07   #1315
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Ever been to Germany Mick ? It's really quite a nice place and the people are some of the most contented and friendliest in Europe. Compare that to the UK. My son might end up working there, they welcome skilled immigrants. If he settles hopefully they.might let me in

We only punch anything these days as we're part of the largest trading block in the world. Once we leave we'll become even more insignificant. The Empire is gone, WW2 is over, this country needs to look to the future, not disappear down a hole of its own making. We'll be left with unskilled grumpy geriatrics, with no healthcare or young folk/tax/resources to look after them.

Spot on Mr K. I'm concerned that my grown up "kids" will never get this opportunity that we currently take for granted.
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Spot on Mr K. I'm concerned that my grown up "kids" will never get this opportunity that we currently take for granted.
Why??
is Germany relocating off world?
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(edited) Ever been to Germany Mick . . . . My son might end up working there, they welcome skilled immigrants.
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Why??
is Germany relocating off world?
Do you think it will be as easy as it is now for Brits to go and work abroad post Brexit ?
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Do you think it will be as easy as it is now for Brits to go and work abroad post Brexit ?
If you have the skills they need then i don't see a problem,the same way i don't see a problem with EU citizens with skills working here,it's the no skill required jobs that will present a problem , all countries have an abundance of none skilled people of their own that need employing.
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If you have the skills they need then i don't see a problem,the same way i don't see a problem with EU citizens with skills working here,it's the no skill required jobs that will present a problem , all countries have an abundance of none skilled people of their own that need employing.

I agree with the highlighted bit. Fruit picking and care home recruitment for example is already massively affected by the looming Brexit threat. Brits just don't want these jobs. And likewise UK back packers won't be able to supplement their travels abroad with seasonal work.
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