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Old 06-08-2019, 09:26   #31
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Re: The American disease

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One on one killings are a bit different to mass indiscriminate shootings...or don't you think so. ??
Explain the term "drive by killing" without it being a mass indiscriminate shooting? So Dr Harold Shipman was ok, because his estimated 250+ killings were one-by-one and one-on-one?

The Democrats by insisting that anybody (who isn't white of course) should be allowed to enter live in(and take over) the US, are increasing crime, including murders because it is those groups disproportionately responsible for those crimes. It is THEIR rhetoric causing this. Without it, these attacks wouldn't happen. Similarly in the UK. Just look at the gun and knife crime. Which groups are disproportionately responsible?

Eg Mexico is claimed to be a dangerous place, but that will be because it is full of Mexicans. Similarly for Somalia and loads of other places. In the Darcus Howe documentary("Who you calling a ....."), Somalis were hated by the Afro-Caribbean community because of their nasty and violent behaviour. Labour MP Diane Abbott sent her son away to public school to get away from the malign influence of the "locals". Others don't have that option.

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Re: The American disease

Trump linking the shooting to video games despite no evidence: https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi..._headlines_hed

Far-right terrorism to become a greater focus from the FBI and national security agencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90wwkZFPmho

In the UK the Government had already increased attention and resources into it over the last couple of years apparently.
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Explain the term "drive by killing" without it being a mass indiscriminate shooting? So Dr Harold Shipman was ok, because his estimated 250+ killings were one-by-one and one-on-one?

The Democrats by insisting that anybody (who isn't white of course) should be allowed to enter live in(and take over) the US, are increasing crime, including murders because it is those groups disproportionately responsible for those crimes. It is THEIR rhetoric causing this. Without it, these attacks wouldn't happen. Similarly in the UK. Just look at the gun and knife crime. Which groups are disproportionately responsible?

Eg Mexico is claimed to be a dangerous place, but that will be because it is full of Mexicans. Similarly for Somalia and loads of other places. In the Darcus Howe documentary("Who you calling a ....."), Somalis were hated by the Afro-Caribbean community because of their nasty and violent behaviour. Labour MP Diane Abbott sent her son away to public school to get away from the malign influence of the "locals". Others don't have that option.

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You are incorrect when you state this - the Democrat policy is that refugees and asylum seekers should be dealt with under the legal process - if your statement were true, please explain why more than 12 million people were "deported" (either removed or returned) from the US during the Clinton administration, and more than 5 million were removed or returned during the Obama administration.
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:06   #34
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Re: The American disease

It's interesting that both the Ohio and El Paso nutjobs were (are still?) being described as right wing etc when it seems that one is Antifa (or trained by them) and the other is a Democrat environmentalist. If this is to be believed: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...e_in_portland/

Same goes for the New Zealand shooter, he turned out to be left wing.
Opens up a can of worms regarding ideology and finger pointing
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:15   #35
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Sorry, but using a pro-Trump Reddit thread isn’t "evidence"...

The NZ shooter donated nearly 4000 Euros to two alt-right European Identitarian movements, and praised an Australian far-right leader, his backpack had neo-Nazi symbols on it, and he said that the British fascist leader Oswald Mosley was the “person from history closest to my own beliefs”.

Seems unusual behaviour for a "leftie"...
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:30   #36
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That's not what I read at the time. As for the reddit thread, dunno? Take it or leave it
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Yeah the NZ shooter was into things like Generation Identity who are clearly not left-wing.
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Old 07-08-2019, 21:42   #38
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Yeah the NZ shooter was into things like Generation Identity who are clearly not left-wing.
I stand corrected on that one.
What about the other two?
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Re: The American disease

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I stand corrected on that one.
What about the other two?
Try and find evidence on a real news site thst supports the information in user-generated Redditt posts that are more prone to fake news posts.

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I stand corrected on that one.
What about the other two?
Wasn't the El Passo killer a big fan of the Christchurch murderer, even going so far as using large parts of his manifesto in his own white nationalist diatribe.

The only thing I've read about the other one is that he hates trump but loves Satan, if that doesn't prove how mental he is nothing will, they're one and the same!!!...
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Dug a little more up:https://www.daytondailynews.com/news...f67iRAMkKkoKL/
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described Betts as “definitely not a right-leaning person. His political views definitely leaned to the left. And believe it or not, he was actually pro-gun control. He was actually anti-2nd Amendment.”
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I stand corrected on that one.
What about the other two?
My understanding is the El Palso one was similar in ideology to the Christchurch shooter whereas the Ohio one was left wing. Although the latter isn’t being treated as a terrorist incident yet since he hadn’t declared any political motivation
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Re: The American disease

Wonder why they need these mass killing weapons ? And why a single hand gun, if they feel they really need one, isn't enough ? Its an utter mystery to me... I think they may be mad.
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My understanding is the El Palso one was similar in ideology to the Christchurch shooter whereas the Ohio one was left wing. Although the latter isn’t being treated as a terrorist incident yet since he hadn’t declared any political motivation
Apparently the el paso shooter is left wing:
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...-paso-shooter/
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I'll trust to the BBC for due diligence..there is a danger of over speculation from most other sources.
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