PM Boris forms a government

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Ha, everything from this point forward is an unknown.

One I am certain of, is that remainers ( and I mean Parliament as well) are totally naive if they think that blocking Brexit will be the end of it.


Half the country will have been discounted, + those that may not have voted for Brexit but believe in democracy, such as myself.

Any future looking Parliament will be very different.

There will almost certainly be no outright government. Coalitions will be the order of the day. Enter Farage.

Boris will wipe the floor with Farage on that side of the equation.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Eighth time lucky, eh?

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Look forward to the evidence to back up this anonymous briefing...

Let's get something straight - I hope to God* that this is all overblown, because if what has been published are the "likely outcomes" of a "no deal" Brexit, the poorest and/or the most vulnerable in society, and those least able to cope, will be the ones who will suffer most, and I don't believe anyone wishes that to happen.

*other deities/belief systems are available

Totally agree Hugh. However there is a significant selfish section of our society who really don't care about poor/vulnerable, just themselves and misleading others.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

You assume the difficulties will only be early and transitional. That’s an unknown.

And you assume that all the downsides we keep hearing about will not be more than compensated by the upsides of all the new opportunities that will arise post Brexit.

I can't see the EU prospering much compared with the rest of the world over the coming years. Why would you want to get sucked further into that bureaucratically stifling hell that is the EU. You know what they say - better out than in.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

And you assume that all the downsides we keep hearing about will not be more than compensated by the upsides of all the new opportunities that will arise post Brexit.

I can't see the EU prospering much compared with the rest of the world over the coming years. Why would you want to get sucked further into that bureaucratically stifling hell that is the EU. You know what they say - better out than in.

They also say 'better the devil you know', and 'the grass is always greener on the other side'

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Ha, everything from this point forward is an unknown.

One I am certain of, is that remainers ( and I mean Parliament as well) are totally naive if they think that blocking Brexit will be the end of it.


Half the country will have been discounted, + those that may not have voted for Brexit but believe in democracy, such as myself.

Any future looking Parliament will be very different.

There will almost certainly be no outright government. Coalitions will be the order of the day. Enter Farage.

I think Boris's promises on various fronts will be popular in the country and getting us out of the EU on 31 October will be rewarded by a grateful electorate. He will be elected with a much increased majority on 1 November if he's forced into calling an election by a vote of no confidence.

The Brexit Party will crash as it will no longer be relevant and has no policies on anything other than Brexit, which will have been achieved.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I think Boris's promises on various fronts will be popular in the country and getting us out of the EU on 31 October will be rewarded by a grateful electorate. He will be elected with a much increased majority on 1 November if he's forced into calling an election by a vote of no confidence.

The Brexit Party will crash as it will no longer be relevant and has no policies on anything other than Brexit, which will have been achieved.

You had the same optimism about Mother Theresa, you thought she was a wonderful job with Brexit a few months ago. Who next? Jimmy Krankie ? He/she would be an improvement for sure.

Jimmy Krankie is currently very busy trying to foment constitutional chaos here in Scotland. Current stage name is Nicola. Be careful what you wish for.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Totally agree Hugh. However there is a significant selfish section of our society who really don't care about poor/vulnerable, just themselves and misleading others.

And if Brexiteers are right and the opportunities from leaving the EU help our economy to prosper, how will that not help the poor?

Nobody wants a poorer society apart from Jeremy Corbyn and his henchman, McDonnell, who want to wipe out everyon's savings by printing as much money as they want and force food prices up by creating rampant inflation.

I want to see a prospering economy and a government that ensures that people in poverty are helped towards a better existence. Anything wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by Mr K

You had the same optimism about Mother Theresa, you thought she was a wonderful job with Brexit a few months ago. Who next? Jimmy Krankie ? He/she would be an improvement for sure.

No, I didn't but I was in favour of leaving with a deal. However, given the concerns over the backstop and the rather uncomfortable closeness her Withdrawal Agreement would have brought us towards the EU, I now believe that a no deal is preferable. I was worried about the short term more than anything.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

And you assume that all the downsides we keep hearing about will not be more than compensated by the upsides of all the new opportunities that will arise post Brexit.

I can't see the EU prospering much compared with the rest of the world over the coming years. Why would you want to get sucked further into that bureaucratically stifling hell that is the EU. You know what they say - better out than in.

What upsides?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

What upsides?

ta daaaaa

https://brexitcentral.com/lets-recal...lion-per-year/

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

What upsides?

We'll have a far healthier population due to food and fuel shortages.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Chris

We’re making no demand beyond that which was promised in 2016

Some common sense at last. No Deal was not promised in 2016 and was not part of the campaign. Quite the opposite in fact.

I am glad someone actually is being honest with what actually happened. When you then add 54% of the electorate voted for parties rejecting No Deal at the last GE, it really makes it very clear.

Any other position is just duplicitous posturing by those who wish to impose an ideological Brexit at all cost. We need more honesty here. The Hard Brexiters are willing to risk the livelihoods of us all, they just do not give a damn.

What is quite telling is that there are many who whined & moaned about the money spent by Cameron on the Remain leaflet who are totally silent on the many, many millions more planned to be spent by Johnson on No Deal propaganda.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

ta daaaaa

https://brexitcentral.com/lets-recal...lion-per-year/

Thank God, thank you, papa. I didn't fancy going through all that again!

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

ta daaaaa

https://brexitcentral.com/lets-recal...lion-per-year/

Mmm.. Brexit snake oil .. love it!

Now post some links to objective, independent research and we can debate the conclusions.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Some common sense at last. No Deal was not promised in 2016 and was not part of the campaign. Quite the opposite in fact.

I am glad someone actually is being honest with what actually happened. When you then add 54% of the electorate voted for parties rejecting No Deal at the last GE, it really makes it very clear.

Any other position is just duplicitous posturing by those who wish to impose an ideological Brexit at all cost. We need more honesty here. The Hard Brexiters are willing to risk the livelihoods of us all, they just do not give a damn.

What is quite telling is that there are many who whined & moaned about the money spent by Cameron on the Remain leaflet who are totally silent on the many, many millions more planned to be spent by Johnson on No Deal propaganda.

The referendum was for leaving or staying in the EU. Boris is perfectly within his rights to take us out.

No deal is better than a bad deal. Heard that one before?

The dystopian view you have been sucked into believing from the EU collaborators will not happen. How can you believe that nonsense? Now they are trying to claim that food rationing will have to be introduced!

Is there nothing this lot won't say to frighten people into believing this claptrap?

I'm surprised that none of these truthtwisters haven't yert claimed that we're all gonna die!