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I imagine Sky and WBD will be happy with those outcomes. WBD keeps its foot in the door with its beloved 12.30 Saturday package whilst Sky has the clear lion's share.

And the streamers? If they were serious, we would be discussing their right packages now.
A paltry 4% rise since the last auction that actually took place. In real terms (inflation adjusted) the value is decreasing, and by the end of this period that will have been the case for a decade - for more live games than ever before!
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I imagine Sky and WBD will be happy with those outcomes. WBD keeps its foot in the door with its beloved 12.30 Saturday package whilst Sky has the clear lion's share.

And the streamers? If they were serious, we would be discussing their right packages now.
Amazon last time with the rights were only interested in the bargain basement package.

This deal proves that.
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A paltry 4% rise since the last auction that actually took place. In real terms (inflation adjusted) the value is decreasing, and by the end of this period that will have been the case for a decade - for more live games than ever before!
Indeed.

I imagine this auction's rights carve-up is the best that fans could realistically hope for.
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Amazon last time with the rights were only interested in the bargain basement package.

This deal proves that.
Itís the DAZN bid I want to hear about
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Amazon last time with the rights were only interested in the bargain basement package.

This deal proves that.
Amazon were super lucky to have their deal extended! Not only did they pick up the bargain basement rights, they also had the term doubled with no inflation uplift either!
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Itís the DAZN bid I want to hear about
It's in the same "to post" pile as Apple's!
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...mazon-31182351

Seems like they were only interested in the bargain basement package as well - and failed.

I thought Sky was resigned not to pull out all the stops to keep their Premiership rights. Seems like they were feeling flush after all.
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The claimed £300m a year (£1.2bn over 4) should have almost certainly won a package if they were serious. Over 5 packages that’s £6bn, and we already know the top dollar games go for a lot more on average. The current deal has Sky paying approx £9m a game and TNT approx £5m.

Sky have (again) correctly gauged the market, having paid less per game (for better picks) in the 2019-22 auction than the rights they held 2016-19. The rollover auction allowed them to maintain this position for less on an inflation adjusted basis.

Streamers - including some of the biggest companies in the world - have declined two excellent opportunities to enter this market. Three if you believe the League could have held an auction during Covid as many other sports bodies did - everyone knows my view they chickened out and this auction demonstrates why.

The big question for the league is how do they actually stimulate competition in the market for rights since even essentially giving them away to Amazon for six years didn’t work.

Sky aren’t (as you claim) “feeling flush”. They’re the incumbent with an established, proven business model that by the end of this next period will have monetised the rights for just shy of forty years.

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Seems like they were only interested in the bargain basement package as well - and failed.

I thought Sky was resigned not to pull out all the stops to keep their Premiership rights. Seems like they were feeling flush after all.
We don't know yet and may never know if anyone apart from Sky and TNT put in a bid.

The small package of 20 matches was discontinued as it had only received a small bid in the last auction. It wasn't intended to be sold at the bargain basement price that Amazon ended snapping it up for!

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A paltry 4% rise since the last auction that actually took place. In real terms (inflation adjusted) the value is decreasing, and by the end of this period that will have been the case for a decade - for more live games than ever before!
By my calculations - might be mistaken - a significant decrease in cost per live game.

2023 auction: 1068 matches in total spread across 4 years
Total rights sale £6.7bn including BBC's unchanged £282m
So £6m per match, equivalent to £4.6m in 2016 given inflation

Previous auction: 600 matches spread across 3 years
Total rights sale £5.1bn including BBC's £282m
So £8.5m per match
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Seems like they were only interested in the bargain basement package as well - and failed.

I thought Sky was resigned not to pull out all the stops to keep their Premiership rights. Seems like they were feeling flush after all.
that is is there best selling point for sky sports OB man if they lost that they would lose a lot of customers and they know it too
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By my calculations - might be mistaken - a significant decrease in cost per live game.

2023 auction: 1068 matches in total spread across 4 years
Total rights sale £6.7bn including BBC's unchanged £282m
So £6m per match, equivalent to £4.6m in 2016 given inflation

Previous auction: 600 matches spread across 3 years
Total rights sale £5.1bn including BBC's £282m
So £8.5m per match
There is a decrease in the average although it’s complex because the “additional” games are necessarily weaker than those “selected” in the old packages. Plus more games will clash in the simulcast 2pm Sunday slot after European midweeks so there’s an argument these pull the average down further. It’d be interesting to see values of the packages that could be deemed most like for like in the auctions.

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that is is there best selling point for sky sports OB man if they lost that they would lose a lot of customers and they know it too
Some hold the view itís their entire business model and they would have plenty in reserve if there was a genuine threat out there.
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