Black Lives Matter

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If I recall correctly, the term "BAME" emerged to cover susceptibility to CV over and above non-BAMEs (must be whiteys, then).

So what's all this BAME cobblers, first introduced in post #16 by the esteemed jfman?

Per Downquark's request:

CV = Coronavirus

But within the BAME group there are variations about Covid-19. You need to be able to separate out cultural related differences. Eg If a group tends to gather together in large numbers, that will help any spreading. An obvious example is that Orthodox/Hasidic Jews seem to be more susceptible, because they gather in groups a lot, and from the photos from New York, they are pretty reckless about it.



The Male-Female difference rarely gets a mention, and is strangely similar across groups.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

[COLOR="Blue"]If I recall correctly, the term "BAME" emerged to cover susceptibility to CV over and above non-BAMEs (must be whiteys, then).

Nah BAME existed long before that. As I said it's a shorthand to refer to minorties.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by nomadking

But within the BAME group there are variations about Covid-19. You need to be able to separate out cultural related differences. Eg If a group tends to gather together in large numbers, that will help any spreading. An obvious example is that Orthodox/Hasidic Jews seem to be more susceptible, because they gather in groups a lot, and from the photos from New York, they are pretty reckless about it.



The Male-Female difference rarely gets a mention, and is strangely similar across groups.

I'm sorry if I didn't make my point properly.

The BAME handle features in BLM when it shouldn't. Why BAME was dragged into this thread (and into other discussions elsewhere) baffles me.

I'm so anti bloody-woke goody two shoes people who know nothing about realities. You should meet my (now aware) daughter's cohort who have no historic reference point, who thought the sun shone out of Corbyn's backside, who thought that the EU gave us money we wouldn't otherwise have. What a shock their descendants will have when the "A" in BAME become through reproduction the majority population and we'll all have to face East. The "B" in BAME won't get a look-in and some of the "MEs" will need to flee.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm so anti bloody-woke goody two shoes people who know nothing about realities. You should meet my (now aware) daughter's cohort who have no historic reference point
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In the grand scheme of things your historical reference point is only slightly larger than theirs. None of us are here too long.

What a shock their descendants will have when the "A" in BAME become through reproduction the majority population and we'll all have to face East. The "B" in BAME won't get a look-in and some of the "MEs" will need to flee.

Most Asians in this country are not Muslim. The majority would be Indian which is not Islamic (then Pakistan which is)

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Damien

In the grand scheme of things your historical reference point is only slightly larger than theirs. None of us are here too long.


Most Asians in this country are not Muslim. The majority would be Indian which is not Islamic (then Pakistan which is)

I know that. But just give it a bit more thought.

As to my historical reference point, what I was taught in my history class is nothing like the cohort to which I am referring. Their reference point is the "wonderful" EU, Erasmus, free movement, idealism and so on with little or no concept of modern history - the Nazis, the formation of Israel by UN resolution, Britain's abolition of slavery, the water treatment plants and roads we built in Africa etc.

[nomadking]

BLM has become everything BAME, little to do with BLM.

White is completely wrong anyway.

I'm not white, I'm a shade of pink, I'd be quite worried if I were actually white.

Pink Lives Matter.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Paul

White is completely wrong anyway.

I'm not white, I'm a shade of pink, I'd be quite worried if I were actually white.

Pink Lives Matter.

Strangely enough, if you were White, you would be Black, ie Albino.

Originally Posted by nomadking

Strangely enough, if you were White, you would be Black, ie Albino.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Paul

White is completely wrong anyway.

I'm not white, I'm a shade of pink, I'd be quite worried if I were actually white.

Pink Lives Matter.

Did we just agree on something

[nomadking]

My mistake, I was under the impression that it was only Black people that were Albinos.


News stories about Albinos tend to focus on Africa.
Link

Albinos—people with white hair and skin, and often reddish eyes—are being mutilated and murdered for their body parts in Tanzania, according to The New York Times. Sometimes as family members look on in horror, groups of machete-wielding men have chopped off the legs, heads, and genitals of albinos.

[Sephiroth]

Albinos—people with white hair and skin, and often reddish eyes—are being mutilated and murdered for their body parts in Tanzania, according to The New York Times. Sometimes as family members look on in horror, groups of machete-wielding men have chopped off the legs, heads, and genitals of albinos

Don't the machete wielding men have knees they could use?

[jfman]

Seph ffs...

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

Seph ffs...

My friend, try understanding the underlying point. The UK has, for years, fed a colonial guilt trip through the wretched Foreign Aid programme.
But black lives matter least in many/most parts of Africa and this isn't the legacy we left them. We exited Africa having provided an administrative foundation, infrastructure, water treatment etc. We left them with industries and agriculture to exploit.

Move then to the USA where the essentially white society is firmly rooted in the gun toting wild west days, of which the police can be seen as an extension (substitute knee for gun or machete for that matter). The descendants of the slavery days are obvious victims on whatever scale of the prejudice within some of the American psyche.

The UK is nothing like that. Not remotely. But suddenly anarchists and woke idiots join forces to make street mayhem here for a cause that has no place here, conveniently forgetting that Africa is the centre of black lives don't matter.

As far as I'm concerned, the UK BLM movement is subversive and must not be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

My friend, try understanding the underlying point. The UK has, for years, fed a colonial guilt trip through the wretched Foreign Aid programme.
But black lives matter least in many/most parts of Africa and this isn't the legacy we left them. We exited Africa having provided an administrative foundation, infrastructure, water treatment etc. We left them with industries and agriculture to exploit.

Move then to the USA where the essentially white society is firmly rooted in the gun toting wild west days, of which the police can be seen as an extension (substitute knee for gun or machete for that matter). The descendants of the slavery days are obvious victims on whatever scale of the prejudice within some of the American psyche.

The UK is nothing like that. Not remotely. But suddenly anarchists and woke idiots join forces to make street mayhem here for a cause that has no place here, conveniently forgetting that Africa is the centre of black lives don't matter.

As far as I'm concerned, the UK BLM movement is subversive and must not be taken seriously.

You had my approval until the last comment.