06-05-2020, 22:32
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Not as I see it.
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In my view, Johnson was out of his depth and Sir Keir is doing a great job of holding the government to account. However, whether any opposition leader is able to take the public along with them at the moment is open to debate. In the medium term, I'm sure Sir Keir's solid approach will pay off. Rishi Sunak is one of his few equals on the Government's benches.
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07-05-2020, 08:36
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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07-05-2020, 09:33
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Yeah Starmer did well, definitely a step-up from Corbyn. He is getting clear and pointed questions across instead of dithering and failing to follow up on gaffs. I think he has managed the balance between not going on full attack mode during a crisis but questioning the response.
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Yep.
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07-05-2020, 10:49
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
I didn’t see it, but it would be difficult to conceive of any way he could have been worse than Corbyn.
Ultimately, we won’t get the measure of him until PMQs returns to its usual pugilistic format.
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08-05-2020, 00:15
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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In my view, Johnson was out of his depth and Sir Keir is doing a great job of holding the government to account. However, whether any opposition leader is able to take the public along with them at the moment is open to debate. In the medium term, I'm sure Sir Keir's solid approach will pay off. Rishi Sunak is one of his few equals on the Government's benches.
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08-05-2020, 08:50
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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08-05-2020, 15:35
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Thank you. I think Sunak's still a worthy recipient of my trust despite what others may think.
Meanwhile, Sir Keir has issued a timely appeal to the Government which makes the front page of the Telegraph "We owe it to VE Day generation to protect them from virus in care homes"
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/statu...98637228912642
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08-05-2020, 16:12
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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Thank you. I think Sunak's still a worthy recipient of my trust despite what others may think.
Meanwhile, Sir Keir has issued a timely appeal to the Government which makes the front page of the Telegraph "We owe it to VE Day generation to protect them from virus in care homes"
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/statu...98637228912642
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A clever move. But entirely valid.
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08-05-2020, 17:39
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
Getting a front page splash with The Telegraph on VE Day talking about protecting veterans is a very un-Corbyn move.
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14-05-2020, 00:57
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
Sir Keir seems to be nailing PMQs on a regular basis. From The Telegraph
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Keir Starmer took Boris Johnson apart like a Duplo train set
At PMQs, the new Labour leader asked a series of calmly factual questions – and the Prime Minister visibly struggled
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...plo-train-set/ (Paywall)
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14-05-2020, 01:07
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I'm not surprised. One's a crisp, pinpoint lawyer; the other is unsuited to grappling with detail.
Still, Boris does represent a political credo to which I subscribe. He'll need to do better at PMQs, though.
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14-05-2020, 10:02
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
I trust lawyers less than I trust senior Government officials.
If someone happens to be both at the same time . . . they can snog my derriere
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14-05-2020, 10:11
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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I'm not surprised. One's a crisp, pinpoint lawyer; the other is unsuited to grappling with detail.
Still, Boris does represent a political credo to which I subscribe. He'll need to do better at PMQs, though.
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Amusingly, I wrote a thesis on this type of situation for an ILM7 Strategic Leadership diploma course almost exactly 10 years ago (it was about the organisation I was in at the time) - as the saying goes " plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"...
Some small excerpts (137 words out of 13,308)
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Inspirational Motivation enables leaders to inspire colleagues to achieve more than they thought was possible, both in performance and the colleagues’ own personal development, whilst often providing challenge and meaning to the colleagues’ work. These leaders can articulate and provide vision of what is possible, and how colleagues can achieve this vision. Bass and Avolio (Bass & Avolio 1993) state that colleagues can be inspired by a leader without the need for identification with the leader...
...Charismatic transformational leaders can create unrealistic expectations that could potentially cause damage when they cannot live up to the expectations they have created. Some colleagues, and in some cases organisations, become overly dependent on charismatic leaders. This is relevant where colleagues develop a disinclination to disagree with the leader, which can lead to the disenfranchisement of the next layers of management.
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I got a merit for this...
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14-05-2020, 11:02
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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I'm not surprised. One's a crisp, pinpoint lawyer; the other is unsuited to grappling with detail.
Still, Boris does represent a political credo to which I subscribe. He'll need to do better at PMQs, though.
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I think many people are attracted by his personality and not his political credo. Certainly, even Johnson has had difficulty in deciding what his views on Brexit leading to him writing two opposing opinion pieces on it and selecting the one he felt would maxximise his chances of becoming PM.
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14-05-2020, 19:16
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
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I think many people are attracted by his personality and not his political credo. Certainly, even Johnson has had difficulty in deciding what his views on Brexit leading to him writing two opposing opinion pieces on it and selecting the one he felt would maxximise his chances of becoming PM.
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Personality is nearly everything if you want to take people with you. In all walks of life.
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