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Old 13-09-2018, 18:44   #1
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Middle Lane Hogging

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All we need now is to stop HGV's trying to pass each other on 2 lane motorways
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Old 13-09-2018, 20:20   #2
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Re: Middle Lane Hogging

I would ban transit vans and bigger from lanes 3/4, and make them have limiters to 60mph.
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Old 13-09-2018, 21:56   #3
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Re: Middle Lane Hogging

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I would ban transit vans and bigger from lanes 3/4, and make them have limiters to 60mph.
Why would that be Homey?
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Old 13-09-2018, 22:12   #4
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Why are people also not using the ruddy indicators... dangerous having to guess sometimes which way they are turning.
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Why are people also not using the ruddy indicators... dangerous having to guess sometimes which way they are turning.
Indeed using the indicators is one of the simple basics of common sense safe driving.
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Indeed using the indicators is one of the simple basics of common sense safe driving.
Along with

Mirror
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rather than what a reasonable amount of drivers seem to do, which is

Manoeuver
Mirror
Signal
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Re: Middle Lane Hogging

Signalling is optional ... isnt it ?
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Signalling is not optional...
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Old 16-09-2018, 12:54   #10
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Re: Middle Lane Hogging

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I would ban transit vans and bigger from lanes 3/4, and make them have limiters to 60mph.
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Why would that be Homey?

Because these are the biggest offenders.
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Because these are the biggest offenders.
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Re: Middle Lane Hogging

I think there is a solution to the speed limiter and long overtaking problem.

As we all know, different speed limiters max out at slightly different speeds, vehicles have different masses, they accelerate and decelerate at different rates. Overtaking is the natural wish of the driver not to have to change their inputs to the system (go flat out against the limiter).

If you allow tweaking of speed limiters to within a certain tolerance, it won't help either, since then, every lorry has to either be overtaking or driving at the speed of the slowest limited truck.

Here's my proposed solution: Time-limited speed boosts.

If it were possible to raise the limit of the limiter for the purpose of overtaking, the whole thing could be over within a shorter time, freeing up the middle lane. Of course, you would want to allow enough time for an overtake to occur, and accept that the overtake won't always be completed within that time - but at least when the normal limit kicks back in, decent progress would have been made.
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Re: Middle Lane Hogging

The slower lorry just has to lift off the accelerator for 5 seconds
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The slower lorry just has to lift off the accelerator for 5 seconds
Which if they have to do this too often could take them over their time limit for driving. Let alone being stuck behind a slower moving vehicle will also delay them.

Easier and cheaper for the car driver to make time up later, than for the lorry driver to lose momentum and be stuck behind a slower moving vehicle for miles.
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Re: Middle Lane Hogging

nobody wants to slow down. So, a speed boost that un-limits by 10mph and recharges every 40 seconds or so would solve the "but he won't slow down" situation. Unless of course both boost at the same time, but that is still less of an issue than neither ever doing so.
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