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Old 03-10-2020, 15:49   #1
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VM TV service over DAB.

I'd never heard about this, does anybody know anything more about this or did they use the service?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...s.broadcasting
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Old 03-10-2020, 17:19   #2
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

Read it in the guardian back in 2007,��
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Old 03-10-2020, 17:19   #3
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

It was this

https://www.radio-now.co.uk/virgin_l..._DAB_phone.htm
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

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It looks like it was ahead of it's time. It only had 10,000 customers, but look how many people now use their smartphones for TV content these days!
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

The Lobster phone. Or am I getting mixed up?

It looked like a dictaphone anyway.
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The Lobster phone. Or am I getting mixed up?

It looked like a dictaphone anyway.
Yes, it was the Lobster.
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

Here it is https://www.trustedreviews.com/revie...v-mobile-phone
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The Lobster phone. Or am I getting mixed up?
Sounds a bit fishy to me.
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

I never use my dictaphone, I always just use my finger.
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

Ah yes, the Lobster, happy days, I had one of those! Pamela Anderson in the advert.

It had E4 (then a subscription channel) and I could watch Big Brother to and from work on the overground sections of the London Underground. Even when the TV service ended it continued as a great portable DAB radio, impervious to the interference suffered by analogue radio on my journey and with a battery life several times that of early dedicated DAB portables.

I suspect video bandwidth was limited and compression isn’t what it is today, but on the small screen that wasn’t really exposed.

A technological cul-de-sac but a fun one. Pamela still going strong.
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

It simply never took off, & was taking too much bandwidth from the DAB mux it was using, forcing stations onto Mono operation.

BT decided to drop the system as only one handset was available & the more efficeint DVB-H standard had been approved by the European Commision for use on 3G devices.

https://www.commsbusiness.co.uk/feat...-closes-movio/
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It simply never took off, & was taking too much bandwidth from the DAB mux it was using, forcing stations onto Mono operation.

BT decided to drop the system as only one handset was available & the more efficeint DVB-H standard had been approved by the European Commision for use on 3G devices.

https://www.commsbusiness.co.uk/feat...-closes-movio/
I believe that the TV stations were transmitted as data streams. Could they use this system for today's DTT to make more efficient use of the diminishing DTT spectrum?
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Re: VM TV service over DAB.

That's what is happening today. DVB TV is data streams.

The difference is how that data is transmitted compared to over IP streams used for mobile and fixed broadband.
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That's what is happening today. DVB TV is data streams.

The difference is how that data is transmitted compared to over IP streams used for mobile and fixed broadband.
Thanks- so they're already doing it then.
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Thanks- so they're already doing it then.
Yes, & its getting more advanced all the time, as 5G mobile has a broadcast mode. So the broadcasters are having to give up their TV spectrum to 5G mobile that can also be used to broadcast TV (amungst other things).

https://5g.co.uk/guides/what-is-lte-broadcast/
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