Coronavirus (OLD)

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Sun:

Anxious Brits were last night wondering where the next local lockdown will be after Leicester was put under restrictions due to a spike in coronavirus cases.

The dramatic surge in the East Midlands city was yesterday being blamed on sweatshops employing up to 10,000 labourers.

Around 200 such factories, which pay workers as little as £3 an hour to churn out cheap fashion, are believed to have been operating in Leicester throughout lockdown.

Many of the workers also live 20 to a house, making it even easier for the disease to spread in shared bathrooms and kitchens.

It has emerged that Bradford is next on the Government’s “watchlist”. Barnsley, Rochdale and Oldham are also being monitored.

They are all reporting around 40 cases per 100,000 residents — nowhere near Leicester’s rate of 135.

A government source said: “It’s not spreading more there because of skin colour but because of living arrangements and workplaces.”

So if they knew about these sweatshops why weren't they closed down by H&S busybodies or the police?

No doubt too busy harassing the general public instead of dealing with the real issue.

[denphone]

Sadly Leicester might not be the only place at risk of a local lockdown as there are 36 cities and counties where Covid cases are rising again.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...cal-lockdowns/

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/30/non-e...ster-12920228/

[nomadking]

No need to wait for test results to determine where to lockdown, just use census data. The map says it all.

Link.

[Pierre]

Bradford is next on the Government’s “watchlist”. Barnsley, Rochdale and Oldham are also being monitored.

doesn't take Sherlock to see the common thread there

if certain groups failed to adhere to lockdown then, unchallenged as they were, i don't they expect to change if they lock them down again

Originally Posted by Pierre

doesn't take Sherlock to see the common thread there

if certain groups failed to adhere to lockdown then, unchallenged as they were, i don't they expect to change if they lock them down again

The North-East

I don't think we should treat all Yorkshiremen/Mancunians the same though. Some of them are very nice people.

[Carth]

I've noticed that the farther North you go, the better sense of humour people have . . or had, until having one was abolished

[nomadking]

The numbers won't be uniform across a given area. There will be higher rate areas and lower rate areas. Even in Leicester, there are variations across the city.


Area of Leicester that includes the major affected area(North Evington).
Link

45.2% of people living in Spinney Hills speak English.

The religious make up of Spinney Hills is 69.6% Muslim, 11.6% Hindu, 8.3% Christian, 3.0% Sikh, 2.4% No religion, 0.1% Buddhist.

As if a mere app is going to help.

[tweetiepooh]

My sister in law's family are based in Leicester but brother's family are in Lincolnshire so hoping she hasn't been visiting then bringing it back but it's possible my brother was infected much earlier in the epidemic so likely she was and can't directly infect others. Still could "carry" it.
Are we going to see "quarentine areas" formed where areas are "locked in" preventing movement in/out, controlling products etc? Since the problem "seems" to be race related that's going to go down well.

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

My sister in law's family are based in Leicester but brother's family are in Lincolnshire so hoping she hasn't been visiting then bringing it back but it's possible my brother was infected much earlier in the epidemic so likely she was and can't directly infect others. Still could "carry" it.

I don't think you can be a carrier if you've had it can you? The virus won't get a foothold on the body in order to multiply/spread?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't think you can be a carrier if you've had it can you? The virus won't get a foothold on the body in order to multiply/spread?

If the virus can 'live' a few days on plastic/metal/glass etc, I'm sure it can live elsewhere without a host - clothing, bags, personal effects

any ideas?

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Carth

If the virus can 'live' a few days on plastic/metal/glass etc, I'm sure it can live elsewhere without a host - clothing, bags, personal effects

any ideas?

Supposedly if you have had the virus then you are not a carrier. This is why Tony Blair wants immunity certificates.

Doesn't mean you cannot carry it on something though. But everything is risk management

Originally Posted by Carth

If the virus can 'live' a few days on plastic/metal/glass etc, I'm sure it can live elsewhere without a host - clothing, bags, personal effects

any ideas?

Sure but I don't think that's what a carrier means in this context means you actively pass it on because you have the virus and are producing a lot of it.

The amount of virus that can survive on someone physically is probably pretty low.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Supposedly if you have had the virus then you are not a carrier. This is why Tony Blair wants immunity certificates.

Doesn't mean you cannot carry it on something though. But everything is risk management

You can still be re-infected, it just won't take hold. For the immune system to tackle it, the virus has to be in the blood stream, ie you've been re-infected.

I wonder if in certain circumstances, it can infect tissue almost directly, without having to travel too far in the blood stream. Nasal and lung tissue is fairly accessible in a direct way. To that extent, it is almost external tissue like skin, without the barrier the skin has of dead skin tissue.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by nomadking

You can still be re-infected, it just won't take hold. For the immune system to tackle it, the virus has to be in the blood stream, ie you've been re-infected.

I wonder if in certain circumstances, it can infect tissue almost directly, without having to travel too far in the blood stream. Nasal and lung tissue is fairly accessible in a direct way. To that extent, it is almost external tissue like skin, without the barrier the skin has of dead skin tissue.

It's an interesting point to debate . . . sort of like having the virus present but being asymptomatic in a way

[pip08456]

Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech shows positive results. Only a small sample though.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/coro...port-says.html