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Old 14-01-2022, 10:29   #31
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Re: Chinese infiltration of Parliament

They've found a way to blame Boris!

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He reported the donations to MI5 apparently. Not sure if that's standard practice but if not then he clearly had suspicions in which case bloody stupid to take the donation.
Unless MI5 asked him to "carry on" so they could collect information and do their own counter espionage.
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Old 14-01-2022, 10:30   #32
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They've found a way to blame Boris!

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Unless MI5 asked him to "carry on" so they could collect information and do their own counter espionage.
A double agent the plot thickens.
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Old 14-01-2022, 11:26   #33
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Re: Chinese infiltration of Parliament

I'm sure that if he's found to have done anything wrong, a profound and sincere apology will be forthcoming . . . to the Chinese
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Unless MI5 asked him to "carry on" so they could collect information and do their own counter espionage.
Again if Barry Gardiner is MI5's man then we're all screwed.

My theory is that all donations from foreign citizens based in the UK have to be declared for precisely this reason. It's legal to accept donations from UK residents but if they're not citizens then maybe there is an additional level of oversight.
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Again if Barry Gardiner is MI5's man then we're all screwed.

My theory is that all donations from foreign citizens based in the UK have to be declared for precisely this reason. It's legal to accept donations from UK residents but if they're not citizens then maybe there is an additional level of oversight.
Apparently, he did support Hinkley Point despite the widespread concerns about Chinese involvement.

Maybe the Chinese were hedging their bets and put in a few spies to make sure they had a direct line to enable them to destabilise the government whichever party is in power .
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Old 14-01-2022, 13:00   #36
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Again if Barry Gardiner is MI5's man then we're all screwed.

My theory is that all donations from foreign citizens based in the UK have to be declared for precisely this reason. It's legal to accept donations from UK residents but if they're not citizens then maybe there is an additional level of oversight.
Not true. Donations from foreign citizens are not allowed. The "loophole" is that UK businesses can donate, even when they have foreign owners.
The key distinctions with this case are that, it was large amount, was mainly to one person, and that the money actually came from elsewhere.
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... the money actually came from elsewhere.
What does that mean?
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It's big business speak, it may mean a series of untraceable offshore accounts set up by - but not limited to - Governments, drug/arms dealers, gambling companies, The Illuminati, lizard people, owners of top football clubs, dairy farmers, the mafia, ransomware hackers, pension funds, VM retention dept. etc etc
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Re: Chinese infiltration of Parliament

i hope this is the end of Beijing Barry's political career.
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It's big business speak, it may mean a series of untraceable offshore accounts set up by - but not limited to - Governments, drug/arms dealers, gambling companies, The Illuminati, lizard people, owners of top football clubs, dairy farmers, the mafia, ransomware hackers, pension funds, VM retention dept. etc etc

the last one had my mouthful of tea over the keyboard.
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What's your point? Russian FSB penetration of the government or parliament?
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What's your point? Russian FSB penetration of the government or parliament?
Russian influence over our lawmakers and political parties is just as bad as Chinese - the Chinese haven't poisoned anyone (as far as we know) on our soil.
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Russian influence over our lawmakers and political parties is just as bad as Chinese - the Chinese haven't poisoned anyone (as far as we know) on our soil.
Well apart from Covid . . . . accidental or not
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Oi. Harry Turtledove's convincing account of the lizard people includes hydrogen powered vehicles, wormhole travel and serious weaponry. Oh - and anti-fascist.

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