Brexit (Old)

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If you truly believed that you would be sticking up for British business and advocating a remain vote. Instead, you're aligning yourself with the far right and far left in advocating we leave the EU. You're ignoring evidence that it will harm the economy as your views would have to change and instead brush it away.

As you well know, Andrew, it is not true that all British businesses wish to remain. Some do, but the majority, and particularly the SME's want to have the advantages that Brexit brings.

Your so-called evidence ignores the historic fact that economists get it wrong time and time again, because presumably they give more weight to the problems than the advantages.

They are wrong again this time, as you will see before long.

By the way, the electorate voted to leave the EU.

[Sephiroth]

Regarding the 95%, responders have used "etc" and "all that stuff" to describe what they think is the content. But that is precisley the detail we need to know. Visas; travel; flights; medical agencies; fishing; "etc".

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

As you well know, Andrew, it is not true that all British businesses wish to remain. Some do, but the majority, and particularly the SME's want to have the advantages that Brexit brings.

Your so-called evidence ignores the historic fact that economists get it wrong time and time again, because presumably they give more weight to the problems than the advantages.

They are wrong again this time, as you will see before long.

By the way, the electorate voted to leave the EU.

Oooh, do you have some data on the majority of businesses backing Brexit? I would like to see that, it would make interesting reading tonight...

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The Conservatives are arguing about everything. The latest one was on murdering the Prime Minister ! Very House of Cards lt'll all make a smashing mini-series sometime

Brutus and his conspirators.

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Originally Posted by Mick

He has to get elected first and current polling has him/Labour behind the Tories, despite all the shenanigans in the Tory Party.

Not sure l believe opinion polls after the last election.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Regarding the 95%, responders have used "etc" and "all that stuff" to describe what they think is the content. But that is precisley the detail we need to know. Visas; travel; flights; medical agencies; fishing; "etc".

95% was just an off the cuff figure to stave on her murderous back benchers (for this week anyway....). Why not 94% or 96.2% ? All cobblers which the muppets have swallowed.

You could always ask her if you like and report back because I don't think anyone knows ! https://email.number10.gov.uk/ (maybe ask for a signed photo too )

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Oooh, do you have some data on the majority of businesses backing Brexit? I would like to see that, it would make interesting reading tonight...

Pure and utter fiction. Brexit is hated by most businesses. We can all put our heads in the sand and pretend every economist is wrong but businesses are more sensible than this.
There's only a few key businesses that support Brexit and one of them - Dyson - has chosen to invest in Singapore not the UK.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

95% was just an off the cuff figure to stave on her murderous back benchers (for this week anyway....). Why not 94% or 96.2% ? All cobblers which the muppets have swallowed.

You could always ask her if you like and report back because I don't think anyone knows ! https://email.number10.gov.uk/ (maybe ask for a signed photo too )

I met her last year - but my question to her was, of course, different; to do with walking away if the EU didn't become more reasonable.


In a few weeks, I'm meeting another Cabinet member and maybe I'll use the 95% question if there's no change in the negotiations. I expect the usual content free reply.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Pure and utter fiction. Brexit is hated by most businesses. We can all put our heads in the sand and pretend every economist is wrong but businesses are more sensible than this.
There's only a few key businesses that support Brexit and one of them - Dyson - has chosen to invest in Singapore not the UK.

the same Singapore that done a free trade deal agreement with the EU

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I met her last year - but my question to her was, of course, different;

Was it about a certain kind of hegemony, perchance?

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Originally Posted by Dave42

the same Singapore that done a free trade deal agreement with the EU

That was probably one reason for locating it in Singapore - guaranteed access to a market of 450million in Europe. We can only guarantee a market of 65million going forwards.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Was it about a certain kind of hegemony, perchance?

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That was probably one reason for locating it in Singapore - guaranteed access to a market of 450million in Europe. We can only guarantee a market of 65million going forwards.

exactly

[1andrew1]

Meanwhile, the Government is looking at chartering a flotilla of boats to bring in food and medicine in the event of a hard Brexit. This makes Project Fear look like a watered-down version of reality.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Meanwhile, the Government is looking at chartering a flotilla of boats to bring in food and medicine in the event of a hard Brexit. This makes Project Fear look like a watered-down version of reality.

To bring in food and medicine from where exactly?

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Meanwhile, the Government is looking at chartering a flotilla of boats to bring in food and medicine in the event of a hard Brexit. This makes Project Fear look like a watered-down version of reality.

Indeed, if things go badly we could be looking back wistfully at Project Fear thinking "if only".

Everyones favourite entrepeneur James Dyson certainly didn't put his money where his mouth is.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by daveeb

Indeed, if things go badly we could be looking back wistfully at Project Fear thinking "if only".

Everyones favourite entrepeneur James Dyson certainly didn't put his money where his mouth is.

exactly it all right for him to go to place with a trade deal with EU but our small businesses wont have that option what a mega HYPOCRITE

[ianch99]

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Originally Posted by ianch99

Not sure what a "buss" is I went on the train and paid for a ticket ..[COLOR="Silver"]

Money well wasted, well done you, did you take a banner/piece of old cardboard box that you had crayoned on.



buss is a term used in the "aina" or in other words the hawaiian islands to describe the state of being high/drunk out of your mind.


A bus is a thing you can moan about after a losing referendum.

Even after the edit this did not make sense

The fact that you just resort to inane comments about crayons and Hawaii means you are patently unable to construct a reasoned argument.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Protecting jobs and the economy is what we all want and your view that all this is in jeopardy is not accepted by those who voted to leave.

New trade deals and release from the bureaucratic and protectionist nature of the EU will do wonders for our economy. I'd take something for that depression if I were you, it's clouding your judgement!

I hate to burst your MBGA bubble but many who voted Leave did not want a No Deal, WTO based omnishambles. One of the reasons why the people should have the right to be consulted now this circus is approaching the end game.

As David Davis said:

If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy