Britain outside the EU

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

Double post - whooopee

Does anyone else think that the EU (Poland) are using some pretty despicable methods to prevent refugees from claiming asylum at their border?

Strikes me as a bit odd that we can't turn refugee boats around, but they can use barbed wire fencing, gas and water cannons to keep them out.

If the Dublin treaty is so brilliant, why don't they let them in and then kick them back out

if only we had floating barbed wire.

[Carth]

Oh my word, do the EU know what they're doing?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...os-migrant-law

The European Union’s top court has ruled that Hungary broke EU law by making it a criminal offence for people or organisations to help asylum seekers and refugees apply for asylum . .

it goes on

Hungary erected a razor-wire barrier on its border with Serbia and Croatia in 2015 as more than one million people, most fleeing conflict in Syria, entered the EU, often from Turkey via Greece.

and continues

The referral came after the court found in December that Hungary had failed to respect EU law by denying people entering the country without authorisation the right to apply for asylum and by unlawfully detaining them in “transit zones” on the country’s border with Serbia.

Rather interesting that the final quote almost mirrors what Poland (an EU country) are currently doing, yet this time the EU are putting the blame on Belarus

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Carth

Some people may agree with what you say.

Others will cite that these immigrants will ensure the UK becomes more prosperous.
They'll integrate nicely into society and do all the jobs nobody else wants. Housing, health care and education won't be an issue, and the crime rate won't rise any faster than if they weren't here.

Given the benefits that these immigrants bring, we should be encouraging as many as we can to come here from all over the world . . . which brings the question, how much is an economy flight for a family of 8 from Mexico?

We may have to up the cost to £40 a week . . . no worries

Some people, you say? Carth, the British people wouldn’t allow it! This would be the biggest misjudgement since Parliament tried to prevent Brexit!

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Some people, you say? Carth, the British people wouldn’t allow it! This would be the biggest misjudgement since Parliament tried to prevent Brexit!

Oh dear, OB - you've taken Carth's cynicism the wrong way.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Oh dear, OB - you've taken Carth's cynicism the wrong way.

Why do you think I'm being cynical?

Surely you remember all the moaning and crying from people and businesses declaring that migrants are desperately needed to help the UK recover from both Brexit and shortages the Covid pandemic has caused?

Now's their chance to make it happen . . but it costs money for the piper to play the tune, and it's all quiet isn't it.

It's starting to look like many countries have decided they now don't need or want the migrants they were quite willing to take in a few years ago . . . that small snowball rolling down the hill has turned into an avalanche . . . who'd have thunk it eh

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

Why do you think I'm being cynical?

Surely you remember all the moaning and crying from people and businesses declaring that migrants are desperately needed to help the UK recover from both Brexit and shortages the Covid pandemic has caused?

Now's their chance to make it happen . . but it costs money for the piper to play the tune, and it's all quiet isn't it.

It's starting to look like many countries have decided they now don't need or want the migrants they were quite willing to take in a few years ago . . . that small snowball rolling down the hill has turned into an avalanche . . . who'd have thunk it eh

Er - I totally get what you're saying and the way in which you put it. If not "cynicism" then well crafted "sarcasm". Keep it up.

[ianch99]

The desperation is clear:

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by ianch99

The desperation is clear:

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George Useless, everytime he opens his mouth he damages the party more, makes you wonder if he's doing it on purpose

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by ianch99

The desperation is clear:

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

George Useless, everytime he opens his mouth he damages the party more, makes you wonder if he's doing it on purpose

But if they're already working are they supposed to use some of their mothering time for the slaughter? And then employ nannies?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

But if they're already working are they supposed to use some of their mothering time for the slaughter? And then employ nannies?

It'll have it be grannies, we're not giving visas to au pairs and the like either

Perhaps George would like a second job now all the cushy corrupt ones are being outlawed

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

But if they're already working are they supposed to use some of their mothering time for the slaughter? And then employ nannies?

"Children, look what mummy has brought you back from work!"

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Sun:

Migrants who arrive in Britain on small boats will be sent abroad to have their asylum claims processed, Dominic Raab said today.

The deputy PM confirmed plans to do deals with countries around the world to deter people from making the Channel crossing.

No 10 is said to be looking at setting up new detention centres in far-flung states like Albania and Rwanda.

Mr Raab revealed ministers have been seeking advice from Australia and Denmark, which are famed for their tough border policies.

He said: "To the extent that we get this flow over to the UK, we need to reduce the pull factor.

"We want to make sure the processing - if it's possible and that will depend on the goodwill and cooperation with partners - can be done elsewhere.

"We make no apology for at least trying to look at that. We want to test the idea because we will do everything we can to resolve this problem."

Looks like the "Madagascar Plan" is alive and kicking.

[Carth]

"Migrants who arrive in Britain on small boats will be sent abroad to have their asylum claims processed" . . . . well, the ones we know about anyway

It actually seems another case of 'pass the buck'





oh, am I allowed to use the word 'buck' as it could, in some eyes, be construed as a racist term?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

"Migrants who arrive in Britain on small boats will be sent abroad to have their asylum claims processed" . . . . well, the ones we know about anyway

It actually seems another case of 'pass the buck'





oh, am I allowed to use the word 'buck' as it could, in some eyes, be construed as a racist term?

I just heard at a cost of £100,000 each

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I just heard at a cost of £100,000 each

sheeesh, I throw up a perfectly good plan to help everyone (even the USA) for as little as £20 a week, and the Government go ahead with another 'money sink' idea