Election 2019 - Week 3

So, two weeks of official campaigning done, plus that unofficial phony war at the start ... and three more weeks to go. We’re halfway there, people.

Not to worry though, the fun and games continues in the official cable forum general election poll, week 3.

For reference, the week 2 discussion was here:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33708370

[tweetiepooh]

Would be interesting if mods could get the trends of polls shown in each week. From memory if the nation follows the voting here we would get a Tory majority.

[heero_yuy]

Corbyn is promising to build thousands of new homes. Well he'll need to to accomodate the hunderds of thousands of immigrants that his open door policy will allow to flood in. No homes for brits then.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Would be interesting if mods could get the trends of polls shown in each week. From memory if the nation follows the voting here we would get a Tory majority.

I really wouldn't draw too much from this unrepresentative forum ! The sample size needs to a hundred times bigger and have a wider audience than Cable fanatics

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Corbyn is promising to build thousands of new homes. Well he'll need to to accomodate the hunderds of thousands of immigrants that his open door policy will allow to flood in. No homes for brits then.

Where did he say houses are just for immigrants and not Brits? Try not to go down soundbite tabloid city...

What if those immigrants are filling vital vacancies in the NHS? E.g. 39,000 nursing vacancies where are they all going to come from? Not this country, the young have got more sense; it requires them to get a massive loan to get a degree, to get poor graduate pay, to care for an ungrateful ageing population. Emigration will soon be our problem, and the old Little England bigots will be left behind to have a moan and blame someone else.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Corbyn is promising to build thousands of new homes. Well he'll need to to accomodate the hunderds of thousands of immigrants that his open door policy will allow to flood in. No homes for brits then.

He reminds me of the holding tank on my boat ,it's full of [ ]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Corbyn is promising to build thousands of new homes. Well he'll need to to accomodate the hunderds of thousands of immigrants that his open door policy will allow to flood in. No homes for brits then.

You may find these links helpful

https://fullfact.org/election-2019/l...vement-policy/

Claim
Labour’s freedom of movement plan could increase net migration to 840,000 a year.

Conclusion
Labour hasn’t published its manifesto yet, and the methods used to reach this number are not credible.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/lab...ration-policy/

Claim
Labour pledged to scrap all controls on immigration

Conclusion
Incorrect. Labour passed a motion at its party conference to extend free movement and ruling out certain forms of immigration systems. This doesn’t mean scrapping all immigration controls.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You may find these links helpful

https://fullfact.org/election-2019/l...vement-policy/

https://fullfact.org/immigration/lab...ration-policy/

** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING ***

Facts have been deployed,

Step away from the keyboard, NOW

[Mr K]

That fullfact website is rubbish, I thought they were suppose to be helping the Tories?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You may find these links helpful

https://fullfact.org/election-2019/l...vement-policy/

https://fullfact.org/immigration/lab...ration-policy/

The claim was "could". Labour also claimed that only 20,000 would come here from the new Eastern EU countries.


So what immigration controls would they put in place? None listed in their actual 107 page manifesto(yes it's out). Just a long list of penalties and deterrents that will be stopped. Basically anybody who comes here will have full access to jobs, NHS etc.

A Labour government will uphold those
rights and meet those obligations.
We will work with others to resume
rescue missions in the Mediterranean,
co-operate with the French authorities
to put an end to the horrific camps,
and establish safe and legal routes for
asylum seekers.
Once here, refugees will have the right
to work, access to public services
and will be treated humanely by
government at all levels.

So that's why the 100,000/year houses are needed.
The channel Tunnel trains will filled up with taxpayer funded "refugees". That would be the only way for "safe and legal routes".

[papa smurf]

Labour manifesto is released, looks like 1970 is going to be a year of great change

[nomadking]

We will create a million climate jobs
in every region and nation of the
UK – good, skilled jobs that will bring
prosperity back to parts of our country
neglected for too long.

Doesn't that amount to over 10 million jobs?

[OLD BOY]

Isn't it strange that so many Labour leavers wanted Brexit to stem immigration, so Labour come up with this wonderful manifesto that would keep us in the EU and even extend immigration?

And the Liberal Democrats decide that they will ignore what voters want and cancel Brexit.

So much for the democratic credentials of these two major opposition parties. No wonder they are in opposition!

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The claim was "could". Labour also claimed that only 20,000 would come here from the new Eastern EU countries.


So what immigration controls would they put in place? None listed in their actual 107 page manifesto(yes it's out). Just a long list of penalties and deterrents that will be stopped. Basically anybody who comes here will have full access to jobs, NHS etc.
So that's why the 100,000/year houses are needed.
The channel Tunnel trains will filled up with taxpayer funded "refugees". That would be the only way for "safe and legal routes".

Refugees have the right to work and claim benefits already so not sure what the difference is to be fair. Asylum seekers are a different thing of course and they cannot work except under very specific circumstances

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Refugees have the right to work and claim benefits already so not sure what the difference is to be fair. Asylum seekers are a different thing of course and they cannot work except under very specific circumstances

If that is the case, why are they mentioning it? Is that because they say "Once here,", ie immediately after getting off the train, plane, boat, dinghy, lorry etc. All those currently in France and those on their way will be provided with a "safe and legal" route into the UK. Then their "families" will automatically also be allowed to come.

[Carth]

I'm not particularly impressed with "refugees" and "asylum seekers" traveling halfway around the World to get to the UK.

I'm not racist, I just think it's a tad ridiculous to throw the UK gates wide open.