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Election 2019 - Week 2
View Poll Results: Your voting intention at this stage of the campaign:
Labour 7 15.91%
Conservative 22 50.00%
Lib Dem 5 11.36%
UKIP 0 0%
Brexit 2 4.55%
Green 1 2.27%
Change UK 0 0%
Plaid Cymru 0 0%
SNP 1 2.27%
Irish nationalist 1 2.27%
Irish unionist 0 0%
Other 2 4.55%
Abstaining 1 2.27%
Ineligible 0 0%
Undecided 2 4.55%
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Old 14-11-2019, 14:59   #16
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Old 14-11-2019, 15:43   #17
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Re: Election 2019 - Week 2

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Why do you keep peddling these lies?
They are not lies, if you have nothing to back up your ridiculous statement then don't infer such mundane accusations.

We are in Austerity because yet again, another Labour government ending in 2010, 13 years in power, spent like crazy. Net government debt as a percentage of GDP had soared from 38% to 69% from 2007 to 2010. It also rose under Conservative rule, too, but at a far slower pace thanks to Austerity measures.

Labour always piss up the economy when they are in power and Corbyn will do far more damage with the socialist Marxist Agenda he and his momentum lot, if he/they ever get in power.

Fancy us looking like Venezuela. ??

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He's a disciple of the Trump fake news school........
Only it is not fake news so stop being silly - Labour helped trash the economy when they were in power. The facts are there FFS.
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I'm shocked at the 6 votes for Labour here. Momentum are trying, maybe succeeding, to gain control of the party and they are deeply anti-semitic. Corbyn heads that bunch and none of you nice folk should give Labour in its current form a moment's kind thought without being tarred by this awful brush.
It's a small sample of mostly right wing cable nerds , however it does reflects all the polls at the weekend showing Labour rising.

This has got all the hallmarks of 2017 again. The more the party leaders are exposed, free of media bias, the more the Tories go downhill. If the the election was in a week I'd still be confident in Con HQ, but it's in a month, by which time the public will be sick of the sight of Boris's ugly lieing chops.

PS. I didn't vote for Labour in the poll, so you can't blame me !
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Old 14-11-2019, 16:08   #19
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It's a small sample of mostly right wing cable nerds , however it does reflects all the polls at the weekend showing Labour rising.

This has got all the hallmarks of 2017 again. The more the party leaders are exposed, free of media bias, the more the Tories go downhill. If the the election was in a week I'd still be confident in Con HQ, but it's in a month, by which time the public will be sick of the sight of Boris's ugly lieing chops.

PS. I didn't vote for Labour in the poll, so you can't blame me !
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It's a small sample of mostly right wing cable nerds , however it does reflects all the polls at the weekend showing Labour rising.

This has got all the hallmarks of 2017 again. The more the party leaders are exposed, free of media bias, the more the Tories go downhill. If the the election was in a week I'd still be confident in Con HQ, but it's in a month, by which time the public will be sick of the sight of Boris's ugly lieing chops.

PS. I didn't vote for Labour in the poll, so you can't blame me !
This should cheer the Conservatives supporters up though.

https://politicshome.com/news/uk/pol...st-zero-claims

This little tweet amused me though when Boris Johnson meets the people.

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Glastonbury: Visit cancelled because of protesters

Follows:

Stainforth: ‘I don’t want to meet you.'

Leeds: ‘Leave my town’

Doncaster: ‘You’ve a cheek. People have died because of austerity’

Rotherham: ‘Get back to London'

-Not going well it seems
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This little tweet amused me though when Boris Johnson meets the people.
Yes, he really is not liked in the North of England where the Conservatives hope to make gains. I don't think they've grasped this.
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This should cheer the Conservatives supporters up though.

https://politicshome.com/news/uk/pol...st-zero-claims

This little tweet amused me though when Boris Johnson meets the people.
He handles the protesters well - Corbyn runs away like the chicken shit he is.

A few protesters doesn't necessarily mean a Tory defeat - we should want them to win - Corbyn would ruin the UK Denphone, you sure you want a Labour government messing up this country and turning it in to a socialist country, where sitting on your arse means getting the same as someone who studies and works hard?
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Yes, he really is not liked in the North of England where the Conservatives hope to make gains. I don't think they've grasped this.
For the Conservative to gain a overall majority they need to make gains in the North and if they don't breakthough there then we could well be in hung parliament territory again.

Remember the Conservatives who are so strong in the South and South East are well likely not to gain more seats there.

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He handles the protesters well - Corbyn runs away like the chicken shit he is.

A few protesters doesn't necessarily mean a Tory defeat - we should want them to win - Corbyn would ruin the UK Denphone, you sure you want a Labour government messing up this country and turning it in to a socialist country, where sitting on your arse means getting the same as someone who studies and works hard?
l am neither a fan of Corbyn or Johnson as l think both would be disastrous and ruinous for this country as this is the worse bunch of political leaders in my lifetime.

Where did l say the Tories would be defeated Mick? as my prediction is for a hung parliament.
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I'm shocked at the 6 votes for Labour here. Momentum are trying, maybe succeeding, to gain control of the party and they are deeply anti-semitic. Corbyn heads that bunch and none of you nice folk should give Labour in its current form a moment's kind thought without being tarred by this awful brush.
It has to be down to some sort of inertia. The only two national parties with decisive things to say about the major issues are the Tories and - dare I say it - the Limp Dumbs.
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They are not lies, if you have nothing to back up your ridiculous statement then don't infer such mundane accusations.

We are in Austerity because yet again, another Labour government ending in 2010, 13 years in power, spent like crazy. Net government debt as a percentage of GDP had soared from 38% to 69% from 2007 to 2010. It also rose under Conservative rule, too, but at a far slower pace thanks to Austerity measures.

Labour always piss up the economy when they are in power and Corbyn will do far more damage with the socialist Marxist Agenda he and his momentum lot, if he/they ever get in power.

Fancy us looking like Venezuela. ??

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Only it is not fake news so stop being silly - Labour helped trash the economy when they were in power. The facts are there FFS.
This reply is so out of touch with reality, it could have come from the Daily Mail comment section.

The primary cause of the 2010 onward austerity programme was the response to the 2008 financial crash which in turn was caused by the casino banking allowed by the excessive deregulation. To argue any different is just being disingenuous.

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You obviously have access to the "truth", so please enlighten us ..
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This reply is so out of touch with reality, it could have come from the Daily Mail comment section.

The primary cause of the 2010 onward austerity programme was the response to the 2008 financial crash which in turn was caused by the casino banking allowed by the excessive deregulation. To argue any different is just being disingenuous.

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You obviously have access to the "truth", so please enlighten us ..
you've already been enlightened by others you just won't accept it.
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This reply is so out of touch with reality, it could have come from the Daily Mail comment section.

The primary cause of the 2010 onward austerity programme was the response to the 2008 financial crash which in turn was caused by the casino banking allowed by the excessive deregulation. To argue any different is just being disingenuous.
No it is not disingenuous at all - far from it.

I wouldn't know a Daily Mail comment from the next. So this assertion is irrelevant.

And what about all the years before that crash?

Totally irrelevant to blame just the 2008 crash - it does not remove any blame from Labour for ruining the economy and causing the next government to introduce austerity that was badly needed to reduce the deficit, we cannot just keep writing blank cheques, like Labour was doing.

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you've already been enlightened by others you just won't accept it.
Absolutely spot on. The facts are there.

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It has to be down to some sort of inertia. The only two national parties with decisive things to say about the major issues are the Tories and - dare I say it - the Limp Dumbs.
Seen so many assertions and labels for that ridiculous party that is far from "Liberal" and "Democrat". They're "Illiberal Undemocrats." in my eyes especially under the Swindler Swinson.
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He handles the protesters well - Corbyn runs away like the chicken shit he is.

A few protesters doesn't necessarily mean a Tory defeat - we should want them to win - Corbyn would ruin the UK Denphone, you sure you want a Labour government messing up this country and turning it in to a socialist country, where sitting on your arse means getting the same as someone who studies and works hard?
Urrmm, like the one in Glastonbury today Boris ran away from ?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...merset-protest
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Urrmm, like the one in Glastonbury today Boris ran away from ?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...merset-protest
That wasn't one protester though, so no, not er like the one in Glastonbury today - here you go again with not researching your information properly and reading things as you should.

The story you link to says - It was over 100 people, far far different situation.

Yesterday, Jeremy ran from one Glaswegian.

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Though the visits were not publicised, word got out that Johnson was in the county and a crowd of about 100 people, including Extinction Rebellion protesters, musicians and even a bard, turned up to greet him at Burns the Bread.
I would not want to meet any of those idiots in ER either.

Do come back when you have an actual valid argument to counter with.
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This reply is so out of touch with reality, it could have come from the Daily Mail comment section.

The primary cause of the 2010 onward austerity programme was the response to the 2008 financial crash which in turn was caused by the casino banking allowed by the excessive deregulation. To argue any different is just being disingenuous.
Not quite, actually. The financial crash was not Labour's fault, and I think you will find that we have acknowledged that many times over on these forums, so I don't know why you trot this stuff out yet again.

Unfortunately, I now have to trot out the standard response, in the interests of balance.

Labour spent all of our reserves and so did not have any money for a rainy day. We had nothing to cover the deficit and basically, we were up the Swanee. Labour had no idea what to do and we were in real danger of going under. That's why austerity was necessary, but we all know that your answer would have been even more spending.

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