Brexit - Page 46

Gavin78 · 27-03-2019, 18:45

The problem we have is MP's that are out for themselves with their version of how they want to leave not what the people want as a leave option.

I don't agree with what's happening now at all.

If May's deal doesn't go through and she leaves anyway then what? end of Brexit?

1andrew1 · 27-03-2019, 18:48

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If May's deal doesn't go through and she leaves anyway then what? end of Brexit?

Probably one of the options voted on today. MPs had two chances to support Theresa's deal but decided not to. The people are increasingly against Brexit and those who still want to leave have different views on how to do so.

Pierre · 27-03-2019, 18:51

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The people are increasingly against .

According to some polls, but no real idea by what, if any, margin.

denphone · 27-03-2019, 18:54

Boris Johnson has now said he is going to vote for May's deal.

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Boris Johnson tells ERG that he's reluctantly backing the PM's deal, according to sources in room. When I chased him down corridor earlier, he would only say: "The PM spoke very well and was very warmly received."

OLD BOY · 27-03-2019, 18:56

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Probably one of the options voted on today. MPs had two chances to support Theresa's deal but decided not to. The people are increasingly against Brexit and those who still want to leave have different views on how to do so.

You wish! But it would be a shame to burst your bubble.

There will be a very severe reaction from the public if Brexit, the people's choice, is defeated by the unacceptable anti-democratic forces who are making such a fuss.

The remainer's march will be nothing compared with the response we'll see to any decision to remain in the EU.

1andrew1 · 27-03-2019, 19:49

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You wish! But it would be a shame to burst your bubble.

There will be a very severe reaction from the public if Brexit, the people's choice, is defeated by the unacceptable anti-democratic forces who are making such a fuss.

The remainer's march will be nothing compared with the response we'll see to any decision to remain in the EU.

No bubble to be burst. Even amongst leave supporters, there is no one common on how best to leave the EU. Leave supporters are as divided as Parliament on this point.
I was against a second referendum and I'm certainly against a third vote on the same question. That's why Theresa May could make such an offer knowing it's unlikely to happen.

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According to some polls, but no real idea by what, if any, margin.

Some interesting data in here for you, Pierre. Not seen any recent polls putting leave in front.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47693645

None of this should detract from my main point to Carth - there isn't one homogenous way that leave voters want to leave.

denphone · 27-03-2019, 19:53

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Are you saying he's a self serving hypocrite Den?

This one is...

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Boris Johnson has previously described Theresa May's Brexit deal as "appalling," a "humiliation," and a "historic mistake," which would turn Britain into "a colony," of the EU.

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Now he has told Tory MPs that he will vote for it.

mrmistoffelees · 27-03-2019, 20:07

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You wish! But it would be a shame to burst your bubble.

There will be a very severe reaction from the public if Brexit, the people's choice, is defeated by the unacceptable anti-democratic forces who are making such a fuss.

The remainer's march will be nothing compared with the response we'll see to any decision to remain in the EU.

severe reaction = wetherspoons having to increase orders?

One thinks it will be perhaps slightly more than than the leave means leave march. currently at 100 people but i highly doubt it will be as high as the revoke gathering.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/m...t-live-2679976

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Some interesting data here

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/

**Damien** · 27-03-2019, 20:08

The country is still split down the middle. It’s mad to suggest ‘the people’ are behind Brexit or Remain. There is clearly a drift to Remain in polling but no where near enough to put it to bed. Another referendum would need 60%+ to be useful IMO and it doesn’t appear anyone is getting that.

denphone · 27-03-2019, 20:52

This from Sky News.

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DUP leader Arlene Foster tells @SkyNews her party “regrets” that it is unable to support the Withdrawal Agreement while it “poses a threat to the integrity of the UK.”

Dave42 · 27-03-2019, 21:00

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This from Sky News.

May cant win without them

denphone · 27-03-2019, 21:01

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May cant win without them

Not in a month of Sunday's Dave.

Pierre · 27-03-2019, 21:14

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The country is still split down the middle. It’s mad to suggest ‘the people’ are behind Brexit or Remain. There is clearly a drift to Remain in polling but no where near enough to put it to bed. Another referendum would need 60%+ to be useful IMO and it doesn’t appear anyone is getting that.

Correct.

Dave42 · 27-03-2019, 21:22

date change law passes 441 for 105 against majority 336

**Damien** · 27-03-2019, 21:27

They're still counting the indicative votes. The expectation is no majority for any option but they want/hope for clear leaders to eliminate some and vote again next week.