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Old 20-07-2019, 16:22   #61
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

In maritime terms it’s the flag that matters, much more so than the nationality of anyone on board. Britain has an obligation to the ship because it is registered here and flies the Red Ensign.
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In maritime terms it’s the flag that matters, much more so than the nationality of anyone on board. Britain has an obligation to the ship because it is registered here and flies the Red Ensign.
Again in what way is that relevant to what was posted, exactly it isn't
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Again in what way is that relevant to what was posted, exactly it isn't
If you are economical with your words, they are open to inference as to what was not said.
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If you are economical with your words, they are open to inference as to what was not said.
I assumed it was clear to all Carth referencing the capture of British sailors ten plus years ago and their subsiquent parading for propoganda purposes by the Iranian authorities and that this won't happen this time due to none of the crew being British, my mistake wasn't being economical with words, it was overestimating the audience
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

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Boris Johnson will be tested by a major international crisis in his first days as prime minister, senior military figures and politicians have warned, after Iran seized a British-flagged tanker in a move that raised tensions in the Gulf to new heights

Johnson, who is expected to win the race to succeed Theresa May as Tory leader and be installed as the new prime minister on Wednesday, was kept informed about the spiralling crisis on Saturday by his rival for the top job, Jeremy Hunt, whom he is expected to reappoint as foreign secretary.

The former first sea lord Admiral Lord West, writing in the Observer, has said the British government should have done more to protect UK ships in the Gulf in recent days and suggests those responsible for such decisions were distracted by the race for No 10.

Under a new prime minister, he says, the government must now focus on the crisis or risk a descent into war.

“This crisis has developed as the eyes of our political establishment have been focused on the election of a new prime minister,” West says. “Whoever wins is going to have to face a major international crisis as soon as he is in post. It cannot be ignored because of Brexit.” He adds: “There are very real risks of a miscalculation or foolhardy action leading to war.”
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

It wouldn't be foolhardy to put more frigates into the area and protect our interests and shipping.
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Old 21-07-2019, 13:22   #67
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

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It wouldn't be foolhardy to put more frigates into the area and protect our interests and shipping.
As Chris posted on the previous page.

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Iran knows it can never win a game of battleships in the Gulf. It has been working instead on swarm tactics that can overwhelm a large naval vessel’s defences. You see a small example of it in these reports of the Stena bulk carrier being escorted by no fewer than 10 speedboats into Iranian waters. Those same tactics, which mandate the owning of a large number of small, fast craft, enables Iran to go after just about any cargo vessel it chooses, in the absence of a close-by naval vessel, wherever in the Gulf it happens to be.

If we were going to effectively police the Strait of Hormuz we would need numbers, not size. HMS Duncan is a formidable air defence destroyer but she’s designed to protect an area of operations from incoming fast jets by shooting them down at long range. That ability is no use here. HMS Montrose saw off a similar Iranian gambit the other week by being in close proximity and pointing her deck gun at the Iranians. Clearly Iran doesn’t want a shooting war it can’t win, so it backed off. Duncan would be able to do the same if it was in the right place at the right time, but it’s just one ship and clearly no naval vessel was in the right place at the right time to intervene here.
We have 13 frigates, and 15-30 large British ships go through the Straits every day.
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

Points towards using convoys. Then the naval vessels can provide effective cover.
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

Did someone mention War?

I can hear the arms factories gearing up already, and cries of "just what we need to get the country back into a stable economy"
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Did someone mention War?

I can hear the arms factories gearing up already, and cries of "just what we need to get the country back into a stable economy"
It's good for buisiness
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It's good for buisiness
And bad for those killed and maimed...

456 UK Armed Forces personnel have been killed in Afghanistan (the Forever War, which has been going on for over 18 years), with thousands, if not tens of thousands, permanently injured for the rest of their lives, physically and mentally.

To paraphrase BJ, "frak business!".
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BREAKING: UPDATE Iran says it has arrested 17 suspects and sentenced a number of them to death, all Iranian, after dismantling a CIA spy ring, as tensions soar between the Islamic republic and arch-enemy the United States. Source AFP News Agency.
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

Russia has sided with Iran. Obviously.
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Re: Iran Tension Escalates as Iran Seizes British Vessels In Strait of Homuz

Bring back the MTB's (2nd world war type) fast motor torpedo boats armed to the gunnels. They would be cheaper to run than Frigates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLBea7OiNc
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Bring back the MTB's (2nd world war type) fast motor torpedo boats armed to the gunnels. They would be cheaper to run than Frigates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLBea7OiNc
Have to buy them, outfit them, transport them there, train the crews and the maintenance crews, put the support infrastructure into place - might take a while...
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