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Old 22-03-2021, 08:46   #1261
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I'm lucky that my local is EMA and we still get a good amount of Cargo, with regular 747F.
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Old 23-03-2021, 11:14   #1262
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We had a similar issue some years ago where people near Leeds Bradford Airport said planes always flew over their house and not where they were meant to. We sent people maps and asked them to make a note of the date and time and to draw what they thought was the track the aircraft followed, we then compared these to the actual radar track. Almost without exception nobody got the track of the aircraft correct and pretty much had the aircraft flying over their house. Some of the participants lived 3 or 4 miles apart and were on both sides of the flight path.

I'm not saying you're wrong just that it's human nature to think the planes are flying over you when they aren't!

I know what you are saying, but I have photos, as I was testing my then ne 18-400mm camera lens
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Old 23-03-2021, 16:00   #1263
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They have a very recognisable sound, as do Chinooks. We get get a lot of aircraft flying over us both rotary and fixed wing, military and civil, and I can tell the Chinooks and Apaches.

Just today we had either an F22 raptor or F35 lightning fly over, I assume it was an F35 but I only had about 3 secs and Iím not in the royal Observer Corp.

First one Iíve seen and It didnít sound like any other fast jet Iíve seen.
Had an Osprey come over today, never seen one in the flesh before.
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Old 23-03-2021, 16:26   #1264
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Had an Osprey come over today, never seen one in the flesh before.
Do the RAF operate those? I've heard speculation they might acquire a couple to improve airborne early warning capability for the new QE class carriers. Mind you there's also talk of them designing drones that could do it and fly off the deck without requiring a full-power catapult system.
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Old 23-03-2021, 17:33   #1265
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There was rumours one was loaned to the Hereford Boys by the USMC, but otherwise they are just operated by the USAF and USMC.
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Do the RAF operate those? I've heard speculation they might acquire a couple to improve airborne early warning capability for the new QE class carriers. Mind you there's also talk of them designing drones that could do it and fly off the deck without requiring a full-power catapult system.

The Osprey is the one with the large propellers that can rotate between horizontal and vertical.
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The Osprey is the one with the large propellers that can rotate between horizontal and vertical.
I know. Thatís why they would be well suited to the RNís new carriers, which donít have cats and traps installed. They rely on regular helicopters for AEW but this limits the range and operating time. US carriers use the fixed-wing E-2C Hawkeye which can work with a catapult and arrestor wire. The Osprey is a good compromise for a carrier designed for STOVL aircraft.
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Interesting, and informative, article about them (from the US Navy)

https://seapowermagazine.org/ospreys...dependability/
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Possibly why the RN hasn't jumped all over them...
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Possibly why the RN hasn't jumped all over them...
Well they have trialled them

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-...rey-tiltrotor/
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That looks like interoperability trials so US Marines can land their Ospreys on the flight deck if need be during a coalition operation rather than prospective purchasing.
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That looks like interoperability trials so US Marines can land their Ospreys on the flight deck if need be during a coalition operation rather than prospective purchasing.
Or was it an attempt to sell them to the RN?
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Or was it an attempt to sell them to the RN?
Quite possibly. Their mission availability problems are in part due to the low numbers of them in use. Fewer spares, higher cost. If the British military bought significant numbers of them it would make life easier for the US. I guess itís still very early days for the QE carriers so plenty of time for the RN to decide if they want to ask the MOD to buy some. But I suspect that metaphorical ship has sailed - AEW is the sort of thing that drones ought to be able to do and when the navy is ready to consider swapping out their helicopters for drones I think they will find it possible to install a system capable of launching and retrieving them from their carriers.
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Quite possibly. Their mission availability problems are in part due to the low numbers of them in use. Fewer spares, higher cost. If the British military bought significant numbers of them it would make life easier for the US. I guess itís still very early days for the QE carriers so plenty of time for the RN to decide if they want to ask the MOD to buy some. But I suspect that metaphorical ship has sailed - AEW is the sort of thing that drones ought to be able to do and when the navy is ready to consider swapping out their helicopters for drones I think they will find it possible to install a system capable of launching and retrieving them from their carriers.
Agreed. I think the RN will just continue to depoy forces (we have so few now) via helicopter where neccessary.
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Well would you believe it ... two Ospreys in close formation, flying very low and heading north, right over my house. So low I didn't hear them until I saw them, so no time to grab my camera unfortunately.
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