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Old 01-12-2020, 14:20   #1246
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Re: Plane Spotters Corner

I count myself lucky to have flown on them, half a dozen times (including once upstairs)

They’re quite something, especially if you’re more used to the smaller aircraft used on short-haul flights that accelerate and get airborne at quite a lick. The first time you feel a 747 lumbering down the runway you start wondering if it’s going to get off the ground at all ...
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Old 09-01-2021, 15:59   #1247
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A passenger plane has crashed after "falling 10,000ft" moments after taking off with 62 people feared dead, it has been reported.

Disturbing images have emerged of rescue workers holding mangled debris from the Boeing 737 which plunged into the Java Sea in Indonesia today.

Sriwijaya Air flight SJ182 fell 10,000ft in under 60 seconds - less than four minutes after taking off from Jakarta's Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, Flightradar24 reports.

One social media user responded to the site's data, saying: "That's freefall."

Locals on Thousand Island - north of Jakarta - said they heard two explosions before finding debris floating in the sea.

Indonesia’s transport ministry says a search and rescue investigation has been launched after contact was lost with the jet which was en route to Pontianak on the island of Borneo.
This the "standard" 737 rather than the max but the scenario is chillingly familiar. Just two years after another Boeing 737 - Lion Air Flight 610 - crashed into the Java Sea after taking off from Jakarta killing 189 people.

I wonder how many (computer) systems are shared between the two versions.
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Old 09-01-2021, 22:05   #1248
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This the "standard" 737 rather than the max but the scenario is chillingly familiar. Just two years after another Boeing 737 - Lion Air Flight 610 - crashed into the Java Sea after taking off from Jakarta killing 189 people.

I wonder how many (computer) systems are shared between the two versions.
Looking at the data the average sink rate was about 26,300 fpm which seems to imply something catastrophic happened especially as there apparently was no Mayday call. The other probably scarier possibility is pilot input - a ground speed of 290 kts equates to a sink rate of about 29,000 fpm. It sadly looks like all soles are likely to have been lost.
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Quite a catastrophic end.
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I've worked in aviation for 15 years and the CAA has a list of airlines banned from European airspace, a lost of Asian airlines are on that list as their maintenance is poo.


A guy I worked with said it was safer to swim in shark infested water than fly on them.
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Old 05-03-2021, 21:14   #1251
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So there’s an RAF Shadow R1 circling the area and two helicopters - possibly Apaches - flying up and down, low and slow. I assume the wilderness between me and Falane is being used for some sort of exercise. But it’s flipping noisy.

Incidentally, reason I think they’re Apaches, despite it being pitch dark, is two of them buzzed us last weekend for the first time ever ... seems a bit of a coincidence.

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Old 05-03-2021, 21:27   #1252
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That’s definitely an Apache
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Old 05-03-2021, 21:39   #1253
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Yes, I was sure they were last weekend, I just couldn’t see them tonight ... so I’m having an educated guess.

Needless to say they’re not showing up in the planefinder app.
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Old 05-03-2021, 23:24   #1255
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Yes, I was sure they were last weekend, I just couldn’t see them tonight ... so I’m having an educated guess.

Needless to say they’re not showing up in the planefinder app.
They have a very recognisable sound, as do Chinooks. We get get a lot of aircraft flying over us both rotary and fixed wing, military and civil, and I can tell the Chinooks and Apaches.

Just today we had either an F22 raptor or F35 lightning fly over, I assume it was an F35 but I only had about 3 secs and I’m not in the royal Observer Corp.

First one I’ve seen and It didn’t sound like any other fast jet I’ve seen.
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In the RAF, helicopters are called "wokkas" (due to the sound they make).

Chinooks are known as "wokka-wokkas"...
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So the Apaches have been back ... three nights we've had them, up and down Loch Lomond late in the evening, and at least once in the small hours (I slept through it, missus was awakened, and unimpressed). They're so low we can almost touch them.

HMS Queen Elizabeth has been in the area for a few days and is currently moored at the ammo dump in Loch Long. So I'm guessing they're doing exercises of some sort. We don't often get fixed-wing jets over the loch but I'm beginning to suspect the one I spotted earlier in the week may have been an F-35.
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I live in the flight path to Stansted Airport, planes normally fly over my house, (Despite the face the Airport says this is not the case).


It's weird not hearing them as often as I used to. What I used to get an hour is about a week ATM
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I live in the flight path to Stansted Airport, planes normally fly over my house, (Despite the face the Airport says this is not the case).
We had a similar issue some years ago where people near Leeds Bradford Airport said planes always flew over their house and not where they were meant to. We sent people maps and asked them to make a note of the date and time and to draw what they thought was the track the aircraft followed, we then compared these to the actual radar track. Almost without exception nobody got the track of the aircraft correct and pretty much had the aircraft flying over their house. Some of the participants lived 3 or 4 miles apart and were on both sides of the flight path.

I'm not saying you're wrong just that it's human nature to think the planes are flying over you when they aren't!
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