05-07-2019, 09:18
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Appropriately hosted by the Express ..
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Originally hosted by BBC news night,but it's not about the messenger service it's about the message reaching the intellectually challenged,probably still went over some peoples heads but at least she tried to educate them.
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05-07-2019, 09:21
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Re: Brexit
I can't really see the intellectual justification to compare the EU's membership of the EU to 'slaves rising up against their masters'. She seems to be more unhinged than usual lately.
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05-07-2019, 09:51
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
I can't really see the intellectual justification to compare the EU's membership of the EU to 'slaves rising up against their masters'. She seems to be more unhinged than usual lately.
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Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU.
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05-07-2019, 09:58
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU.
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OB, I agree with Damien here. I find the EU to be highly undemocratic and we need to get our sovereignty back. However, we are not slaves and they are not oppressors.
Her grandstanding speech was unwisely phrased and she's made herself a laughing stock.
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05-07-2019, 10:10
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
OB, I agree with Damien here. I find the EU to be highly undemocratic and we need to get our sovereignty back. However, we are not slaves and they are not oppressors.
Her grandstanding speech was unwisely phrased and she's made herself a laughing stock.
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I agree it was over the top, Seph. But all this feigned 'offence' taken by the country's thought controllers has become rather ridiculous, don't you think?
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05-07-2019, 10:13
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Re: Brexit
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I agree it was over the top, Seph. But all this feigned 'offence' taken by the country's thought controllers has become rather ridiculous, don't you think?
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Whilst I understand your point about the country's 'thought controllers', their expressions of outrage are no stronger than mine.
I do not recognise Widdecombe as a reasonable ambassador for Brexit.
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05-07-2019, 10:55
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Re: Brexit
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Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU.
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I'm not sure Damien i s the Messiah nor is he a very naughty boy for that matter.
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Whilst I understand your point about the country's 'thought controllers', their expressions of outrage are no stronger than mine.
I do not recognise Widdecombe as a reasonable ambassador for Brexit.
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Put it this way, she's a great asset to the campaign. To the remain campaign, I mean.
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05-07-2019, 11:01
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I'm not sure Damien i s the Messiah nor is he a very naughty boy for that matter.
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Put it this way, s he's a great asset to the campaign. To the remain campaign, I mean.
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I don't think so. She's just a joke to both sides. Nothing she said protects the remain cause.
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05-07-2019, 11:06
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Whilst I understand your point about the country's 'thought controllers', their expressions of outrage are no stronger than mine.
I do not recognise Widdecombe as a reasonable ambassador for Brexit.
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I tend to think the over-the-top, vindictive hyperbole by her and her Brexit Party colleagues will, in the long run, harm their cause. If they debated as adults rather than constantly try and excite their followers with patently childish descriptions: corrupt, cancerous, oppressors, feudal barons, etc, they would fare better in the long run.
I understand the strategy where you appeal to the base emotions with simplistic and vivid messages but this does not belong in serious political discourse.
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Originally hosted by BBC news night,but it's not about the messenger service it's about the message reaching the intellectually challenged,probably still went over some peoples heads but at least she tried to educate them.
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No, it is *all* about the messenger service ...
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05-07-2019, 11:06
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Re: Brexit
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Or....
Justification for the intellectually gullible...
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05-07-2019, 11:09
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Re: Brexit
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I thought Damien belonged to the "other" lot?
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05-07-2019, 11:49
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Or....
Justification for the intellectually gullible...
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Those who think the EU is a democratic organisation.
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05-07-2019, 12:53
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
I thought Damien belonged to the "other" lot?
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Our lot is very happy with the Life of Brian.
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05-07-2019, 14:47
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by ianch99
I tend to think the over-the-top, vindictive hyperbole by her and her Brexit Party colleagues will, in the long run, harm their cause. If they debated as adults rather than constantly try and excite their followers with patently childish descriptions: corrupt, cancerous, oppressors, feudal barons, etc, they would fare better in the long run.
I understand the strategy where you appeal to the base emotions with simplistic and vivid messages but this does not belong in serious political discourse.
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No, it is *all* about the messenger service ...
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And as per usual, I see you fail to highlight nothing absolutely wrong with the Lib Dem’s mantra and profanity laden attire.
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05-07-2019, 14:52
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Re: Brexit
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And as per usual, I see you fail to highlight nothing absolutely wrong with the Lib Dem’s mantra and profanity laden attire.
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I agree, Mick, my whole being was offended by that word!
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