23-12-2018, 12:26
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Re: Brexit
You lot will grasp any straw to further your silly claims
The UK infrastructure, social welfare and health has been eroding since well before Brexit was ever mentioned.
Brexit will be the cause of Global warming in your next tirade I imagine
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23-12-2018, 12:34
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#5582
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
You lot will grasp any straw to further your silly claims
The UK infrastructure, social welfare and health has been eroding since well before Brexit was ever mentioned.
Brexit will be the cause of Global warming in your next tirade I imagine
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And them drones that's brexit.
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23-12-2018, 12:37
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#5583
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
You lot will grasp any straw to further your silly claims
The UK infrastructure, social welfare and health has been eroding since well before Brexit was ever mentioned.
Brexit will be the cause of Global warming in your next tirade I imagine
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That may be true, however the time, money and effort wasted on Brexit is delaying solutions and funding.
https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/ci...-looms-closer/
It’s not just wages too, accommodation, IT infrastructure, pension contributions all attract a cost.
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23-12-2018, 12:40
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Re: Brexit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth
You lot will grasp any straw to further your silly claims
The UK infrastructure, social welfare and health has been eroding since well before Brexit was ever mentioned.
Brexit will be the cause of Global warming in your next tirade I imagine
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There is nothing silly about important UK policies being ignored and put on the back burner because of Brexit.
l am more interested in these important policies and how we can improve things in these important areas for the people of this country rather then a internecine civil war in both HMG and the opposition which is effectively putting most of these important policies on the back burner until this Brexit shambles is sorted out which might be never..
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Last edited by denphone; 23-12-2018 at 12:42.
Reason: Adding words.
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23-12-2018, 12:44
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#5585
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
I'm sure the Brexit elite are pleased that you believe that. The reality is somewhat different, as we've seen with the drone legislation being stopped, to take one of many examples.
This cartoon sums it up quite nicely.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Brm5nHEHVVQ/
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And that will be the last time you use that term in this thread - you're usually the first to complain when people use "Remoaner" - follow the first post rules:
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A person who voted to leave the EU and expects that result to be enacted and leave the EU in it's entirety, they are not a extreme or hard Brexiteer.
So therefore, do not use any kind of extra labelling that can be considered provocative by either side.
AND NO getting around this rule by using different variations that amount to the same meaning.... such as "Extreme Brexiteers" or "Hard Brexiteers" or any other variation that labels a Brexiteer in any other form.
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23-12-2018, 17:51
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Brexit
Remainers fury over Brexit fuelled by CONTEMPT for working classes - report
ACADEMICS have argued that Remainers’ anti-Brexit fury is fuelled by a deep-seated contempt for Britain’s working class who they feel should NEVER have been allowed a say in the future of the nation.
Brexiteer and historian Robert Tombs said his academic group called Briefings for Brexit has unearthed evidence that those protesting most vehemently over Britain’s EU referendum result have nothing but scorn for the nation’s largely white working class, and the fact their decision has so clearly shaped the future of the country. Mr Tombs says Remainers are motivated by “identity politics” and associate Brexit with the working class and are arrogantly taking their fury out on Leave campaigners because they simply cannot get over the fact those deemed insignificant by comparison have carved out the UK’s future without them. He contends this superiority complex is the real reason behind the “Remainer Revolt”, rather than any real love for Brussels. Mr Tombs told the Daily Telegraph: “Hard-line Remainers... have been and are willing to push their campaign beyond legitimate politics as previously understood. “First, they have encouraged foreign authorities to resist the policy of the UK, and have thereby done much to sabotage that policy.
“Second, they have attempted to de-legitimise legal votes, using arguments that would take us back 150 years and more – essentially, that ordinary people are incapable of taking a major national decision and that they must therefore be overruled.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...is-theresa-may
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Last edited by papa smurf; 23-12-2018 at 18:19.
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23-12-2018, 18:03
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#5587
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
That’s magnificent journalism right there. This guy has “unearthed evidence” and fails to provide any whatsoever!
It’s essentially an emotive opinion piece laced with some dog whistle terms for the benefit of his audience.
Edit: turns out the source IS an opinion piece from the Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...empts-subvert/
Last edited by jfman; 23-12-2018 at 18:06.
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23-12-2018, 18:08
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#5588
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Re: Brexit
A totally independent article, written by a frequent contributor to Briefings for Brexit...
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23-12-2018, 19:07
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#5589
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NoT 1oF tHe UsUaLSuSpeCtS
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Remainers fury over Brexit fuelled by CONTEMPT for working classes - report
ACADEMICS have argued that Remainers’ anti-Brexit fury is fuelled by a deep-seated contempt for Britain’s working class who they feel should NEVER have been allowed a say in the future of the nation.
Brexiteer and historian Robert Tombs said his academic group called Briefings for Brexit has unearthed evidence that those protesting most vehemently over Britain’s EU referendum result have nothing but scorn for the nation’s largely white working class, and the fact their decision has so clearly shaped the future of the country. Mr Tombs says Remainers are motivated by “identity politics” and associate Brexit with the working class and are arrogantly taking their fury out on Leave campaigners because they simply cannot get over the fact those deemed insignificant by comparison have carved out the UK’s future without them. He contends this superiority complex is the real reason behind the “Remainer Revolt”, rather than any real love for Brussels. Mr Tombs told the Daily Telegraph: “Hard-line Remainers... have been and are willing to push their campaign beyond legitimate politics as previously understood. “First, they have encouraged foreign authorities to resist the policy of the UK, and have thereby done much to sabotage that policy.
“Second, they have attempted to de-legitimise legal votes, using arguments that would take us back 150 years and more – essentially, that ordinary people are incapable of taking a major national decision and that they must therefore be overruled.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...is-theresa-may
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Totally agree with that.It explains the venom and undemocratic attitude many of them have,they behave like petulant children mostly and that's why most comments are not worth a reply ..
Just a sarcastic comment here and there will do when i can be arsed lol
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23-12-2018, 19:08
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#5590
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
That’s magnificent journalism right there. This guy has “unearthed evidence” and fails to provide any whatsoever!
It’s essentially an emotive opinion piece laced with some dog whistle terms for the benefit of his audience.
Edit: turns out the source IS an opinion piece from the Telegraph
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Not much different than most of the stuff linked to by the remain camp then, just somebodies opinion . .
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23-12-2018, 19:26
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#5591
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
Not much different than most of the stuff linked to by the remain camp then, just somebodies opinion . .
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Well he is making an accusation he should clearly be able to back up.
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23-12-2018, 19:29
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#5592
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
Well he is making an accusation he should clearly be able to back up.
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By the same token - whenever we see a scare story from the Project fear department, they need to back up their "opinion".
Works both ways.
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23-12-2018, 19:39
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#5593
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
By the same token - whenever we see a scare story from the Project fear department, they need to back up their "opinion".
Works both ways.
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Certain things like economic projections are by their nature estimates (based on certain assumptions). Both sides make guesses of what they think the EU will/will not do and their motives going forward.
That article is something that he should be able to out and out prove.
I do think there’s an absence of facts on both sides and that article is tantamount to name calling.
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23-12-2018, 19:48
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#5594
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Re: Brexit
One example of anti-Brexit fury came from no less than that idiot Vince Cable:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...porters-racist
“Too many [Brexiters] were driven by a nostalgia for a world where passports were blue, faces were white, and the map was coloured imperial pink,” he said. Their votes were “crushing the hopes and aspiration of the young for years to come”, he added.
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23-12-2018, 19:53
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Re: Brexit
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Theresa May has cut short her cabinet ministers’ Christmas break, summoning them to a meeting to discuss a no-deal Brexit on January 2, as the UK prime minister tries to ramp up pressure on her critics.
Tory officials have expressed growing confidence that Mrs May’s Brexit deal will pass the House of Commons next month, although they see it as an attritional struggle that may involve the bill being defeated on the first and even second attempt.
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