19-05-2019, 08:29
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
So which party was Farage a member of while his personal lifestyle was funded by Banks? He had stood down from UKIP and The Brexit party didn't exist.
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He was an MEP whilst Banks was funding him.
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19-05-2019, 09:12
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#2327
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10 yrs same company 😁
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Sovereignty allows us to make our own way, our own muffins, without their domination, without their corrupt CAP, without their corrupt Fishing Rules, without things being skewed for France and Germany.
That's got to be worth something.
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Sorry, but as soon as you try to claim corruption on fishing rules, it shows you have not been paying attention.
The UK is the only EU country that has sold fishing rights. What we have left is controlled by 5 companies, leaving independent UK fishermen fighting for the scraps.
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19-05-2019, 09:20
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#2328
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
He was an MEP whilst Banks was funding him.
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Wow, so what?
A Eurosceptic gives a Eurosceptic money. FFS this constant attacking of Farage is pathetic. Nothing illegal occurred so stop whinging, whose funding Change UK, whose funding the LedbyDonkey campaign, which is in turn, putting up pointless billboards, attacking Brexit Party?
Brexit Party is riding high in practically every poll, despite all this pathetic one sided bullshit about funding.
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19-05-2019, 09:25
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Angua
Sorry, but as soon as you try to claim corruption on fishing rules, it shows you have not been paying attention.
The UK is the only EU country that has sold fishing rights. What we have left is controlled by 5 companies, leaving independent UK fishermen fighting for the scraps.
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That’s not quite accurate, but it is true that large FPOs control a large amount of the U.K. quota, but there is nothing wrong unusual in that.
https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/201...-michael-gove/
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19-05-2019, 09:33
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
[/COLOR]Only if you believe it was a failing relationship - better for the kids (the U.K. population) if the parents tried to resolve any issues,
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Wrong as usual. Were you living under a rock when David Cameron tried to get reforms, tried to resolve our issues?
EU were not interested.
Have you gone blind to what they have planned?
They want to revoke the veto power, each Member State has, this is not making that disgusting corrupt entity reformed, it’s sowing the final stitches for greater dictatorship rights. The EU is Anti-Democratic. We need to get the hell out now, as we Democratically decided.
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19-05-2019, 10:45
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
He was an MEP whilst Banks was funding him.
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I'm not sure why you think this is a big issue. You are attacking Farage personally because you can't actually fault what he is saying. You are beginning to sound desperate.
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19-05-2019, 17:51
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10 yrs same company 😁
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I'm not sure why you think this is a big issue. You are attacking Farage personally because you can't actually fault what he is saying. You are beginning to sound desperate.
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Banks support "in kind" to Farage should be declared, it wasn't.
As an MEP Farage will not be involved in Brexit negotiations, so the one pledge they seem to have cannot be implemented by them. No wonder he hasn't bothered with a manifesto.
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19-05-2019, 18:08
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I'm not sure why you think this is a big issue. You are attacking Farage personally because you can't actually fault what he is saying. You are beginning to sound desperate.
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Brexit anxiety disorder [ BAD ]
For Britain’s pro-European middle classes, Brexit is akin to a psychological trauma which has left many unable to behave rationally, according to two leading experts. Far from being hyper-rational observers concerned only with what is economically sensible, many have morphed into the "Remainiacs" of Brexiteer disdain.
https://www.politico.eu/article/brex...-middle-class/
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Guess who's coming to dinner
White House chiefs call for Nigel Farage invitation to Trump’s royal banquet
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11...e-brexit-party
That's a nice touch having president Trumps friend at the table.
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19-05-2019, 18:12
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Angua
Banks support "in kind" to Farage should be declared, it wasn't.
As an MEP Farage will not be involved in Brexit negotiations, so the one pledge they seem to have cannot be implemented by them. No wonder he hasn't bothered with a manifesto.
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Wrong. Party support has to be declared.
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19-05-2019, 19:01
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Angua
Banks support "in kind" to Farage should be declared, it wasn't.
As an MEP Farage will not be involved in Brexit negotiations, so the one pledge they seem to have cannot be implemented by them. No wonder he hasn't bothered with a manifesto.
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He has said his party will be a disruptive influence and will finally get the message through that the majority of UK citizens want out. An important message to parliamentarians will also be received if he trounces the EU elections.
I am sure Nigel Farage is quite capable of steering EU leaders towards the view that they really do have to let us go.
Why does he need a manifesto when everyone understands the situation and what he wants to deliver? How clear can it be?
Last edited by OLD BOY; 19-05-2019 at 19:10.
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19-05-2019, 19:44
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Re: Brexit
I have oft wondered why remainers keep going on about the Brexit party not having a manefesto. IDK it could be I'm getting myself in "Game of Thrones" mode but here is what I think.
LibDem EU manifesto. Hello EU tell us what you want us to do, we'll roll over and you can tickle our bellies.
Labour EU manifesto. We haven't decided yet if we are a leave or remain party so if the EU don't mind what we'd like to do is push for a peoples vote then we don't have to decide anything.
Conservative EU manifesto. Well we think we want to leave but our leader is a remainer that keeps trying to get her withdrawal agreement through even though it can tie us into the EU for years to come and doesn't know her rectum from her elbow.
Brexit Party. No manifesto, leave.
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19-05-2019, 20:02
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
Wrong. Party support has to be declared.
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Is that true for MEPs then?
Certainly MPs have to declare other income and donations although I am sure there will be outrage on here if the law dares make such a request of Mr Farage.
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19-05-2019, 20:07
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
Is that true for MEPs then?
Certainly MPs have to declare other income and donations although I am sure there will be outrage on here if the law dares make such a request of Mr Farage.
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If the law supported such a request then outrage would be wrong.
Please find where the law has been broken in Mr Farage's case. If you can, as a confirmed leaver I will support you and anyone else to force a legal resolution.
Put up or shut up!
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19-05-2019, 20:12
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by pip08456
If the law supported such a request then outrage would be wrong.
Please find where the law has been broken in Mr Farage's case. If you can, as a confirmed leaver I will support you and anyone else to force a legal resolution.
Put up or shut up!
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I didn't say it was against the law. I said it would be against Parliamentary rules, I think it's a law, if he did this as an MP. I literally do not know if the same applies for the EU. You would hope so.
As for criticism I think I'll continue and ignore your demand to 'shut up' since I want to hold politicians to a higher standard than not breaking the law. Although in case I have not been particularly animated about Farage's funding other than to point out that it's a valid question for the media to ask.
Last edited by Damien; 19-05-2019 at 20:16.
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19-05-2019, 20:21
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Re: Brexit
How can someone be accused of buying influence, when the whole aim was to remove that person from having any influence, not that they had any in the first place.
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