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Old 31-07-2020, 10:08   #1
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Possibly way off theory about Merit and CCXTV on Freeview

Here's my probably nonsense theory about what might be happening with Merit and CCXTV.

First up the "theory" may be related to the upcoming requirement that PSB channels be in the Top 24 positions on the EPG. BBC4 in Scotland needs to move and BBC3 might be returning, two spaces maximum are needed. The Shopping channels possibly feel they are going to get forced out so I think this might be preemptive action.

There are interesting things of note about the positions of the channels involved.

1) Ideal World currently has channels on LCN 22 and 23 (CCXTV), right next to 24, the cut off point.

2) QVC has LCN 35 (QVC Beauty) and 36 (QVC Style) right after Merit's LCN of 34.

Ideal World could buy Merit, swap places with their main channel of the same name and then sell Merit and CCXTV to a buyer that doesn't mind dealing with the problem coming in January 2021 with the Top24 issue.

Same goes for QVC, and it has the additional convenience of placing all their channels on concurrent LCNs if it bought Merit.

It could be both Shopping channels are involved in the same process. Ideal World may only be half way through dealing with LCN 23, having already swapped CCXTV with Create & Craft, and QVC are doing it Merit.

Like I said at the start, it's probably wrong this theory, I just thought I'd share it. At the very least you can be amused by my wrongness.
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Old 07-08-2020, 18:19   #2
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Re: Possibly way off theory about Merit and CCXTV on Freeview

Don't ITV own Merit?

Maybe ITV will sell Merit to Ideal World as ITV broadcast Ideal World every night just after midnight on ITV (Channel 3).

Source: ITV London on Virgin Channel 853.


QVC may buy CCXTV and close it to make way for QVC to move to Channel 23. and Ideal World moving to Channel 34.

With the rumour BBC Three relaunch being on Channel 16 or BBC Four slot of Channel 8.

Scotland:
08. BBC Scotland
16. BBC Four (Was QVC)
22. BBC Three (Scotland only)
23. QVC (Was CCXTV)
34. Ideal World (Was Merit)

England and Wales:
08. BBC Three
16. BBC Four (Was QVC)
22. Channel number free in Wales and England.
23. QVC (Was CCXTV)
34. Ideal World (Was Merit)

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Old 07-08-2020, 19:41   #3
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Re: Possibly way off theory about Merit and CCXTV on Freeview

Yes ITV own Merit, I assumed people already knew that based on other threads so I didn't mention it.

Why would Ideal World sell CCXTV to their rival to the detriment of their own channel?

I explicitly mentioned BBC3 and BBC4 because that was my reason for my theory. Did you quickscan read my post?
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Yes ITV own Merit, I assumed people already knew that based on other threads so I didn't mention it.

Why would Ideal World sell CCXTV to their rival to the detriment of their own channel?

I explicitly mentioned BBC3 and BBC4 because that was my reason for my theory. Did you quickscan read my post?
I was just given everyone my own theory.

I did not quickscan any of your post.

---------- Post added at 19:51 ---------- Previous post was at 19:49 ----------

I do not use the Freeview EPG. I have got the Shopping channels sitting beside one another.
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What is a "PSB" channel ?
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What is a "PSB" channel ?
I think PSB (Forgot to say it means Public Service Broadcaster) but it also mean it given the lowest channel number if the channel broadcast the News (And some other shows you can't get on channels like Sky One and Gold) or some Sports like the FA Cup Final.

The following channels are PSB Channels

All BBC Channels
ITV, STV, UTV
Channel 4
Channel 5

CITV may also be on list.
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What is a "PSB" channel ?
PSB is Public Service Broadcaster. It's basically those channels Media Boy mentioned.

I too am not sure about CITV in this regard. I'm guessing it isn't as it wasn't included in the OFCOM ruling about having a Top 24 Electronic Programme Guide position by 2021.

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Re: Possibly way off theory about Merit and CCXTV on Freeview

It isn't you're right. S4C is a PSB.
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PSB is Public Service Broadcaster. It's basically those channels Media Boy mentioned.

I too am not sure about CITV in this regard. I'm guessing it isn't as it wasn't included in the OFCOM ruling about having a Top 24 Electronic Programme Guide position by 2021.
Only the BBC’s channels have PSB status across the board. The other PSBs are those occupying position 3, 4 and 5 in the channel line up. Pre-digital TV that was unambiguously Channel 4 everywhere except Wales and the converse for S4C. Now S4C can be received across the UK and Channel 4 can be received in Wales, but I think it’s the case that they have no PSB obligations outside of their official area.
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PSB is Public Service Broadcaster. It's basically those channels Media Boy mentioned.
Aha, got it. Thanks.
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