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Old 10-07-2020, 09:25   #1
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Wrong ITV Region

I've often wondered why I am recieving the wrong ITV region. It was noticable again on Good Morning Britain when they go to the 'news in your region'.

I should be getting the East Midlands region but I have the West Midlands instead. I want to know whats happening in Nottingham,Derby and Leicester not Birmingham,Coventry and Wolverhampton.

I always thought that the service was based on our post codes. My Virgin Media comes under Area 30. Does anybody else recieve the wrong region?
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Old 10-07-2020, 09:46   #2
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

Is it because you are watching ITV HD?
Try ITV SD on 103
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Old 10-07-2020, 13:47   #3
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

More than likely because I always prefer to watch in HD.
I've set it to record tonights Central News on 103 so I will see what comes on.
Thanks for that Oliver,much appreciated.
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Old 10-07-2020, 14:02   #4
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

ITV Central has two sub-regions - East and West. Both are in SD but only West is in HD.
So it doesn't matter what platfrom you have you will only get West in HD.

About half the sub-regions have the wrong HD version - because the correct one does not exist.
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Old 10-07-2020, 20:55   #5
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

I've noticed this on the VM go app
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:49   #6
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

Yep, it recorded the news for the East Midlands
Thanks for your comments guys
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Old 11-07-2020, 22:48   #7
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

didnt even know sub regions existed... are the midlands really that big for two sub regions? the north west is fairly big but i wouldnt expect two sub regions?
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:03   #8
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

In the old Central days there was Central East (Nottingham) and Central West (Birmingham) - BBC is still the same with two sub-regions for Midlands.

There is only one for the old-Granada region - but Meridian has three, Yorkshire and Anglia have two, STV has four!

If you get access to them you'll soon find that much of the 6pm regional news programme presentation is pre-recorded. You get the same presenter showing up at the same times doing different local presentation.

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didnt even know sub regions existed... are the midlands really that big for two sub regions? the north west is fairly big but i wouldnt expect two sub regions?
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

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didnt even know sub regions existed... are the midlands really that big for two sub regions? the north west is fairly big but i wouldnt expect two sub regions?
Spot on, a total waste of resources for a non event!
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Old 13-07-2020, 09:00   #10
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

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Spot on, a total waste of resources for a non event!
The subregions allow ITV to offer more targeted advertising. I expect they'd like to split Liverpool and Manchester, but it's not possible because they are both served by the same transmitter.
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

The counter argument, from the viewer's perspective, is that if the regions are too large the local news isn't that local.

For example, in Scotland the BBC hasn't got sub-regions, and as a result the news is Glasgow/Edinburgh-centric, much to the irritation of most of the population who don't live in them. Though STV News isn't much better at representing other regions as they don't devote much time to them, despite the sub-regions.
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Old 13-07-2020, 11:58   #12
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

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The subregions allow ITV to offer more targeted advertising. I expect they'd like to split Liverpool and Manchester, but it's not possible because they are both served by the same transmitter.
Ah I see. How does that work with the regional tv? We’ve got liverpool live aka the judge Judy channel and manchester have their own channel I believe?
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Ah I see. How does that work with the regional tv? We’ve got liverpool live aka the judge Judy channel and manchester have their own channel I believe?
Good point. It seems Winter Hill does do directional broadcasts for these. There's a Lancashire channel too. Didn't know that!
https://ukfree.tv/article/1107052513...tion_patterns_
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

The East Midlands separation from the West Midlands for news was an IBA requirement back in the early 1980's, when ATV transitioned into Central - and followed complaints that ATV wasn't local enough, and where it was, it was Birmingham centric.
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Re: Wrong ITV Region

A lot of the "sub-region" studios no longer exist (Nottingham for instance), so all sub-region programmes are made at the same centralised studios, one pre-recorded, usually by the same presenters, & then output at the same time as the live broadcast of the other sub-region.

This is where you get the HD issue, as only one HD circuit is available from each studio complex. Hence the pre-recorded programme can go out on the SD circuit to the intended sub-region & the live to the other, but the HD feed can only provide the live programme to both.

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Good point. It seems Winter Hill does do directional broadcasts for these. There's a Lancashire channel too. Didn't know that!
https://ukfree.tv/article/1107052513...tion_patterns_
There are four to be precise.

Made in Liverpool (Winter Hill + Storeton Relay on the Wirral),
That's Manchester,
That's Lancashire,
plus the local Greater Manchester mini mux.

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallery...71&pageid=1867

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