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Old 16-09-2020, 20:08   #5671
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With all the recent resignations, there's bound to be at least one position in government for you to fill, Carth.

If not, Dido Harding is always greatful for a bit of help on track and trace.
All the resignations?

I count 2 hardly significant ones so far....

You do like to "window dress" party contempt where none for the government seriously exists.
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Old 16-09-2020, 20:40   #5672
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All the resignations?

I count 2 hardly significant ones so far....

You do like to "window dress" party contempt where none for the government seriously exists.
In fairness, although I’m sure it’s not really for this thread, I’m sure Andrew is also referring to senior civil servants and department heads. While some will no doubt dismiss them as being politically biased etc. many will have careers that go back as far as Blair, if not Major, and have served under Cameron and May.
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Old 16-09-2020, 20:50   #5673
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All the resignations?

I count 2 hardly significant ones so far....

You do like to "window dress" party contempt where none for the government seriously exists.
A little light relief in these troubled times harms no one.

The recent resigatiions that come to mind are:
  • Lord Keen of Elie, the Advocate General for Scotland, 16th September
  • Jonathan Jones, the Treasury solicitor and permanent secretary at the Government Legal Department, 8th September
  • Simon Clarke MP, 8th September
  • Rt Hon Anne-Marie Trevelyan MP 2nd September
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Old 16-09-2020, 20:54   #5674
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A little light relief in these troubled times harms no one.
That’s extra.
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Old 16-09-2020, 20:55   #5675
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PPE required these days.
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Old 16-09-2020, 23:00   #5676
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With all the recent resignations, there's bound to be at least one position in government for you to fill, Carth.

If not, Dido Harding is always greatful for a bit of help on track and trace.
I have too much self respect to even consider a role in any Government . .
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Old 17-09-2020, 09:28   #5677
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Re: Coronavirus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54166256

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Almost two million people in north-east England are expected to face local restrictions as coronavirus cases rise.
Northumberland, Newcastle, Sunderland, North and South Tyneside, Gateshead and County Durham council areas are in discussions to get the measures.
These may include pubs closing earlier and restrictions on households mixing.
I suspect it's going to spread.
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Old 17-09-2020, 09:35   #5678
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Unsubstantianted rumours that the CMO Chris Whitty is deeply concerned and as such was advising the prime minister that a short national lockdown might be needed.
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Re: Coronavirus

Almost inevitably. The point of an effective test, trace, isolate regime is to make data driven decisions in real time. If it’s taking days to get a test and days to get results once tested, decision making is based on out of date evidence or projections in both numbers/geography.

Asking people to self isolate while waiting for test results will have a diminishing level of compliance the longer it goes on. Unscrupulous, and low paying, employers will insist that low paid staff still attend work or go without pay, etc. Without a safety net greater numbers will take risks more often.

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Unsubstantianted rumours that the CMO Chris Whitty is deeply concerned and as such was advising the prime minister that a short national lockdown might be needed.
If so, a solid move for the inevitable public enquiry.
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Almost inevitably. The point of an effective test, trace, isolate regime is to make data driven decisions in real time. If it’s taking days to get a test and days to get results once tested, decision making is based on out of date evidence or projections in both numbers/geography.

Asking people to self isolate while waiting for test results will have a diminishing level of compliance the longer it goes on. Unscrupulous, and low paying, employers will insist that low paid staff still attend work or go without pay, etc. Without a safety net greater numbers will take risks more often.

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If so, a solid move for the inevitable public enquiry.
100% agree on the bold section, lots of places already running on the edge of 'breaking even' and can't afford another hit.
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Old 17-09-2020, 17:29   #5681
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54188766

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Almost two million people in north-east England will be banned from mixing with other households and pubs will close early as coronavirus cases rise.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock announced the temporary restrictions will be in place from midnight due to "concerning rates of infection".
The measures affect seven council areas including Newcastle, Sunderland, South Tyneside and Gateshead.
So it starts.
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Old 17-09-2020, 18:17   #5682
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It started in my area a while ago Maggy. Most of Greater Manchester has had increased lockdown restrictions for some weeks. Whist the areas you link have infection rates uo to 103:10000
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Greater Manchester has rates of up to 189:10000 with 3 of the 10 Boroughs in Gtr Manchester being higher than the rate recorded in Sunderland.

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I have lost count walking around my supermarket where people refuse to wear a mask or wear it under the nose.

Sorry I see no valid reason for someone to be walking next me without a mask possibly spreading this disease.
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Well who'd have thought it? Send everyone back to work, school and open pubs, restaurants and cases spiral...
Rocket science, it isn't.
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I have lost count walking around my supermarket where people refuse to wear a mask or wear it under the nose.

Sorry I see no valid reason for someone to be walking next me without a mask possibly spreading this disease.
We went to Dorset for the day yesterday and it was exactly the same in some of the places we went into..
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