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Old 24-05-2022, 12:11   #4066
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All three main parties have formed competent governments in the past. No reason why this can't happen in the future.
Agreed so long as it’s not Labour! I did aaprove of the recent coalition.
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Old 24-05-2022, 13:30   #4067
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Cranswick, one of the UK’s largest pork producers, has called for government action to save the pig industry after feed price rises added to labour shortages to place farmers under “unsustainable strain”.

A jump in cereal prices of more than 50 per cent after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine pushed up the price of feed, which accounts for most of the cost of raising a pig. This had added to problems in the sector caused by post-Brexit shortages of skilled butchers, said Cranswick.
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Old 24-05-2022, 14:39   #4068
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Re: Britain outside the EU

These little digs keep on coming. Corollary to the foregoing is that we shouldn’t have left the EU because of the shortage of butchers and the like.

Btw, there is no shortage of plumbers in my area.
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Old 24-05-2022, 14:46   #4069
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Corollary to the foregoing is that we shouldn’t have left the EU because of the shortage of butchers and the like.
Or maybe, if you know you're going to leave the EU, you make sure you can continue to get the workforce required before you do, or put plans in place to train more people up where expected shortages will happen.
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Or maybe, if you know you're going to leave the EU, you make sure you can continue to get the workforce required before you do, or put plans in place to train more people up where expected shortages will happen.
Pie in the sky given the divorce process.
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Pie in the sky given the divorce process.
Meh, it's what we wanted
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Old 24-05-2022, 22:25   #4073
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These little digs keep on coming. Corollary to the foregoing is that we shouldn’t have left the EU because of the shortage of butchers and the like.

Btw, there is no shortage of plumbers in my area.
From experience firstly with my then gilrlfriend's father.

He was a small(ish) pig breeder and when they were farrowing used to be up 24/7, I used to spell him occaisionally when I was there but he insisted no longer than an hour, that enabled him to get at least a little shuteye. . That was UK law at the time, check daily on the animals you are breeding to ensure their health and safety (not the eact wording), he had no problem with that, the more piglets that survived, the more profit he made.(for British bacon production.)

Other than the 7-14 days they were expected to farrow (give birth) they were free range, most were in and out in less than 10 days. There was a very good reason for it. But that's a different story.

At the time I was being trained to be a qualified slaughterman (as well as a master butcher with a family firm). I worked 7 days a week to get my certificate as a slaughterman and more time to become a master butcher.

Now a question for you. Why is my exgirlfriend's Father no longer breeding pigs and why I am no longer recognised as a "Master Butcher". I know some Supermarket chains claim to have one but that is BS I could bury everyone of them after all these years and all because of the EEC morphing from an economic Union into a political one.

I bet you've never heard of British Bacon because you've only ever seen Danish.

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Old 06-06-2022, 19:38   #4074
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It is not often you can actually see the race to the bottom:

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From experience firstly with my then gilrlfriend's father.

He was a small(ish) pig breeder and when they were farrowing used to be up 24/7, I used to spell him occaisionally when I was there but he insisted no longer than an hour, that enabled him to get at least a little shuteye. . That was UK law at the time, check daily on the animals you are breeding to ensure their health and safety (not the eact wording), he had no problem with that, the more piglets that survived, the more profit he made.(for British bacon production.)

Other than the 7-14 days they were expected to farrow (give birth) they were free range, most were in and out in less than 10 days. There was a very good reason for it. But that's a different story.

At the time I was being trained to be a qualified slaughterman (as well as a master butcher with a family firm). I worked 7 days a week to get my certificate as a slaughterman and more time to become a master butcher.

Now a question for you. Why is my exgirlfriend's Father no longer breeding pigs and why I am no longer recognised as a "Master Butcher". I know some Supermarket chains claim to have one but that is BS I could bury everyone of them after all these years and all because of the EEC morphing from an economic Union into a political one.

I bet you've never heard of British Bacon because you've only ever seen Danish.

Rant over.

Never eaten Danish bacon in the UK. Only ate Danish bacon in Poland.
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I think you're in danger of heading into Kim Jong-un reality levels if you think that only one party can form a competent government.
The Conservatives did under Maggie Thatcher. Labour was in a hopeless mess and MT got us out of the one that Labour left her.
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From experience firstly with my then gilrlfriend's father.

He was a small(ish) pig breeder and when they were farrowing used to be up 24/7, I used to spell him occaisionally when I was there but he insisted no longer than an hour, that enabled him to get at least a little shuteye. . That was UK law at the time, check daily on the animals you are breeding to ensure their health and safety (not the eact wording), he had no problem with that, the more piglets that survived, the more profit he made.(for British bacon production.)

Other than the 7-14 days they were expected to farrow (give birth) they were free range, most were in and out in less than 10 days. There was a very good reason for it. But that's a different story.

At the time I was being trained to be a qualified slaughterman (as well as a master butcher with a family firm). I worked 7 days a week to get my certificate as a slaughterman and more time to become a master butcher.

Now a question for you. Why is my exgirlfriend's Father no longer breeding pigs and why I am no longer recognised as a "Master Butcher". I know some Supermarket chains claim to have one but that is BS I could bury everyone of them after all these years and all because of the EEC morphing from an economic Union into a political one.

I bet you've never heard of British Bacon because you've only ever seen Danish.

Rant over.
Try Aldi you'll find it there. In fact the pork joints were also British which more then you can say for Asda ,last time l looked there's were German
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I bet you've never heard of British Bacon because you've only ever seen Danish
Most of this seems pretty British to me

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/SearchResults/bacon
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Most of this seems pretty British to me

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/SearchResults/bacon

Seems like Waitrose are fully British on Bacon.

https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/shop/b...con_and_gammon

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