VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by jfman

Bad news for fledgling streaming service DAZN as Anthony Joshua’s next fight is being put off til next spring, and they struggle to find an ‘acceptable’ opponent for Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez. Considering the latter is on a $365m 10 fight deal I’d politely suggest it’s better that he fights someone rather than no-one.

An alternative point of view is a fight against a weak opponent is no draw for DAZN who presumably need to increase subscribers not lose them.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Raider999

An alternative point of view is a fight against a weak opponent is no draw for DAZN who presumably need to increase subscribers not lose them.

The thought among those close to the matter is they are only offering him $18m for this fight, citing Covid-19. He knows he’s the biggest pay-per-view draw in the game at the minute and more likely to seek to be released from his contract.

An easy way for DAZN to remove $300m of future liabilities I suppose.

[Chad]

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...ms-in-germany/

"Ben King, chief subscription officer at DAZN Group, said; “Research shows us that pay TV customers in Germany prefer to watch the majority of their video entertainment via their pay TV set-top-box. We appreciate that by asking them to switch to a secondary device to watch Bundesliga, Champions League or NFL has been placing an unnecessary obstacle between them and the sports they love."

Isn't that the problem Eleven Sports had in the UK? They couldn't secure a carriage deal for any of the major TV platforms. Think DAZN will have the same problem.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Chad

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...ms-in-germany/

"Ben King, chief subscription officer at DAZN Group, said; “Research shows us that pay TV customers in Germany prefer to watch the majority of their video entertainment via their pay TV set-top-box. We appreciate that by asking them to switch to a secondary device to watch Bundesliga, Champions League or NFL has been placing an unnecessary obstacle between them and the sports they love."

Isn't that the problem Eleven Sports had in the UK? They couldn't secure a carriage deal for any of the major TV platforms. Think DAZN will have the same problem.

Spot on Chad.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by denphone

Spot on Chad.

Agreed, streaming maybe ok fir those that want to watch it there and then - but does it work for those that want to time shift?

Currently BT Sport has premiership rugby on its Extra channels (Red Button) - as far as I'm aware there is no way to record these and they are not available on-demand at a later date.

[Phunkenstein]

Originally Posted by Chad

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020...ms-in-germany/

"Ben King, chief subscription officer at DAZN Group, said; “Research shows us that pay TV customers in Germany prefer to watch the majority of their video entertainment via their pay TV set-top-box. We appreciate that by asking them to switch to a secondary device to watch Bundesliga, Champions League or NFL has been placing an unnecessary obstacle between them and the sports they love."

Isn't that the problem Eleven Sports had in the UK? They couldn't secure a carriage deal for any of the major TV platforms. Think DAZN will have the same problem.

DAZN have been quite active in getting onto STBs... I know they have carriage on Sky in Italy & Germany and set up a whole new strategy called ‘DAZN For Operators’ after they launched on Comcast’s STBs in the US.

(They also set up a linear channel on Sky in Italy called DAZN1 which may prove controversial to some people in this forum!)

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein

DAZN have been quite active in getting onto STBs... I know they have carriage on Sky in Italy & Germany and set up a whole new strategy called ‘DAZN For Operators’ after they launched on Comcast’s STBs in the US.

(They also set up a linear channel on Sky in Italy called DAZN1 which may prove controversial to some people in this forum!)

At the end of the day you’ve got to sell what the customers want, and convenience is part of that. Premier Sports have a good strategy in this regard - they have an app for those who want to stream and are available on Sky/Virgin. Their app is very good, and can cast to Chromecast, Fire Stick etc.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by jfman

At the end of the day you’ve got to sell what the customers want, and convenience is part of that. Premier Sports have a good strategy in this regard - they have an app for those who want to stream and are available on Sky/Virgin. Their app is very good, and can cast to Chromecast, Fire Stick etc.

Agree Premier Sport have nailed it which is why they are more succesful in the UK than the likes of ESPN, Setanta and Eleven sport were.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

Agree Premier Sport have nailed it which is why they are more succesful in the UK than the likes of ESPN, Setanta and Eleven sport were.

Are they? That surprises me a little.

Any idea of the number of UK subscribers?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Are they? That surprises me a little.

Any idea of the number of UK subscribers?

The fact they exist suggests to me that they are having more ‘success’ than those mentioned in the post.

Subscriber numbers aren’t comparable - ESPN and Setanta at their height were aiming to compete with Sky and had Premiership rights.

Premier are clearly not aiming to take on Sky. A comparison with Eleven would be perfectly valid, however I’m not sure they hung around long enough to publish subscriber numbers, were they?

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Are they? That surprises me a little.

Any idea of the number of UK subscribers?

Considering they're still going and are growing their sporting coverage aswell as recently adding a third channel suggests they are.
They will never be on the scale of SKY and BT ofcourse but for what Premier sport is one would imagine they're doing quite well.

[ozsat]

The BT Sport channels are available on BT's own EPG in HD - but Sky and Virgin only get Red Button SD access.

Originally Posted by Raider999

Agreed, streaming maybe ok fir those that want to watch it there and then - but does it work for those that want to time shift?

Currently BT Sport has premiership rugby on its Extra channels (Red Button) - as far as I'm aware there is no way to record these and they are not available on-demand at a later date.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ozsat

The BT Sport channels are available on BT's own EPG in HD - but Sky and Virgin only get Red Button SD access.

SD is old tech!

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

SD is old tech!

So is broadcast TV. �� Not watched any since Christmas.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

So is broadcast TV. �� Not watched any since Christmas.

That puts you in the minority then.

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

Considering they're still going and are growing their sporting coverage aswell as recently adding a third channel suggests they are.
They will never be on the scale of SKY and BT ofcourse but for what Premier sport is one would imagine they're doing quite well.

They're making a go of La Liga and Serie A, something Eleven couldn't with their niche product. It's certainly a most welcome development that a broadcaster with the flexibility to operate with the major platforms and with their own app has the rights.