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Old 04-07-2020, 12:32   #76
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

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And Red Bull’s complaint about the DAS steering gizmo on the Mercs has been thrown out.
Effectively isn't the system a switch? No real judgement involved compared to direction of steering.
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Old 04-07-2020, 16:11   #77
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Ferrari are shocking!
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Old 04-07-2020, 16:16   #78
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Ferrari are shocking!
Hamilton's strongest threat lies within..
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Hamilton's strongest threat lies within..
Just like the start of last season.
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Just like the start of last season.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

Hamilton Shafted again.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

Bit daft you can effectively end someone's race and get away with 5 seconds off your time. Mercedes fan, Hamilton fan but he's entirely at fault for that. He either yields like he should have or one of two things happen. Albon goes straight on into the gravel or he follows the racing line and gets clipped by the front of Hamilton. Both are effectively on Lewis.
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Hamilton Shafted again.
I'm a Hamilton fan, but Hamilton was clearly at fault, Albon was ahead on the racing line so hes not shafted, rather Albon is shafted again.

Split second before contact, Hamilton is moving across the track even if he can't help it it is still his fault.


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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

He was most definitely at fault sadly.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

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He was most definitely at fault sadly.
Not for the first time.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

I disagree that Hamilton was at fault. At the start or just before the incident, Hamilton was infront. Going into the beginning of the corner, Hamilton now has the racing line and they are level. In the middle of the corner, Albon is slightly ahead. This is now far too late for either driver to back out. At the end of the corner and from the picture posted above, while there is little room, there is still room and a cars width. The on board shot of Hamilton shows that he maintained the same steering angle throughout the corner.

The above is a racing incident all day long. Do we want these guys to race or not?
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I disagree that Hamilton was at fault. At the start or just before the incident, Hamilton was infront. Going into the beginning of the corner, Hamilton now has the racing line and they are level. In the middle of the corner, Albon is slightly ahead. This is now far too late for either driver to back out. At the end of the corner and from the picture posted above, while there is little room, there is still room and a cars width. The on board shot of Hamilton shows that he maintained the same steering angle throughout the corner.

The above is a racing incident all day long. Do we want these guys to race or not?
Which he should not have done given that Albon was ahead.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

Just before the contact, there was plenty of room on Hamilton's side. Also if Albon had enough space, how come Hamilton still ended up very near the outside edge of the track? If a driver is ahead of you(more than half a cars length?), then the "racing line" is immaterial, you have to yield.
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Which he should not have done given that Albon was ahead.
Why shouldn't he have done that? He was on the racing line and left a gap on the outside. None of us know if it was full lock though. What it does show is that Hamilton didn't 'push' Albon off the track. Albon was ahead at the end of the corner and as the above picture shows, still has room. At the beginning and middle of the corner, he was not ahead.

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Just before the contact, there was plenty of room on Hamilton's side. Also if Albon had enough space, how come Hamilton still ended up very near the outside edge of the track? If a driver is ahead of you(more than half a cars length?), then the "racing line" is immaterial, you have to yield.
The plenty of room on Hamiltons side is where Albon should have been, pushing Hamilton wide into the corner. Trying to overtake on the outside when the other driver is on the racing line is always going to be risky. The picture above clearly shows there is a cars width of space. The reason Hamilton still ended up near the edge of the track is because that is the natural racing line. Albon wasn't ahead when the move was made nor was he ahead in the middle of the corner. He was only ahead when it was too late for either driver to back out. It's clear from the on board shot from Hamilton that he wasn’t pushing Albon out wide.
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Re: F1 2020 Season Thread

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Why shouldn't he have done that? He was on the racing line and left a gap on the outside. None of us know if it was full lock though. What it does show is that Hamilton didn't 'push' Albon off the track. Albon was ahead at the end of the corner and as the above picture shows, still has room. At the beginning and middle of the corner, he was not ahead.

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The plenty of room on Hamiltons side is where Albon should have been, pushing Hamilton wide into the corner. Trying to overtake on the outside when the other driver is on the racing line is always going to be risky. The picture above clearly shows there is a cars width of space. The reason Hamilton still ended up near the edge of the track is because that is the natural racing line. Albon wasn't ahead when the move was made nor was he ahead in the middle of the corner. He was only ahead when it was too late for either driver to back out. It's clear from the on board shot from Hamilton that he wasn’t pushing Albon out wide.
The stewards (ex drivers) apparently didn't agree with you.
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