Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[weenie]

I wonder if I am the only Scot who cannot wait till this all goes away, totally fed up with the yes vote campaign it is in your face every day. Vote NO I say. I wish it was September then it would all be over.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by weenie

I wonder if I am the only Scot who cannot wait till this all goes away, totally fed up with the yes vote campaign it is in your face every day. Vote NO I say. I wish it was September then it would all be over.

If only.

It looks like this is over. I noticed the other day that we're closer to the vote than we are to Osbourne's currency speech. Polls haven't moved since their uptick in April and according to the latest polling people's positions are hardening whilst undecideds decline. The amount of people certain to vote, over 80%, also suggests that the Yes campaign can't depend on a few points swing due to a enthusiasm gap.

Yes need a big event to happen for this to change now. They might be able to close the polls a bit over the Summer but not by enough without a major intervention to help them. As long as Cameron hasn't got a hidden recording of him burning the Scottish flag with Ed Miliband and Prince Charles then I fail to see what could happen (that's feasible).

I think when we look back at this though we made a couple of mistakes. Allowing the SNP to not include Scottish residents elsewhere in the UK in the vote was a big mistake. Also the timing should have been now rather than after the Glasgow Commonwealth Games.

I agree Cameron should have made the powers to hold the referendum expire at the end of May 2014, I really can't see what has been achieved by allowing the bloodletting to go on this long.

We are now seeing the nats revert to type, boycotting businesses whose owners have expressed anything remotely unhelpful to their cause (B&Q being only the latest) and, on Sunday morning, demonstrating outside BBC Scotland in Glasgow to protest against 'unionist bias'. They are starting to look like a batty fringe group, which is unsurprising because at their core that's what they are.

Perhaps the only benefit of having to wait until September is that the more bitter and desperate the nats get, the more stupid they will make themselves look. The three stooges, Alec, Nicola and John boy, are looking increasingly crazed as they parrot the same lines about bullying etc. Only the most dyed-in-the-wool separatists can't see that they're desperate and devoid of any strategy. They really did think they could paint Westminster as a great big bogeyman and then wing it.

[Osem]

They really are behaving like spoilt children. Some of what's going on is pathetic.

There's some more 'bullying' here too:

A think tank has suggested an independent Scotland would face bigger spending cuts and higher tax rises than previously predicted if it is to balance the books.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies has updated its calculations, based on the latest official forecasts.

Pro-Union campaigners have welcomed the analysis.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-27690028

[Derek]

More bullying, negative campaigning and scaremongering according to the guess camp.

I'm constantly amazed they make absurd promises, throw tantrums when they are called out on their back of a fag packet calculations and generally fail to debate like adults yet some people are still dumb enough to believe them.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek

More bullying, negative campaigning and scaremongering according to the guess camp.

I'm constantly amazed they make absurd promises, throw tantrums when they are called out on their back of a fag packet calculations and generally fail to debate like adults yet some people are still dumb enough to believe them.

That'd be right.

Just out of curiosity, has the SNP ever once conceded that their opposition have a point and that things might not be a bed of roses?

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

Just out of curiosity, has the SNP ever once conceded that their opposition have a point and that things might not be a bed of roses?

Nope. If that happens I'd expect snowflakes in hell, cats and dogs living in harmony and Arthur praising the Tories.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek

Nope. If that happens I'd expect snowflakes in hell, cats and dogs living in harmony and Arthur praising the Tories.

So it IS all going to be just tickety-boo then after Salmond's Tartan Twits get their way... no risks, no downside, no problems at all... A veritable tartan Utopia with Braveheart Salmond's image emblazoned on everything as his reward for saving the proud Scots from their dire fate at the hands of the despicable English...

If it all goes to plan I reckon Salmond can see a Hollywood film in this with his chum Sean Connery playing the SNP leader...

[Derek]

Looks like IKEA will be joining the list of boycott targets for the Nats.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...itics-27696769

The Swedish foreign minister has said he believes Scottish independence could have "profound implications" for the the rest of Europe.

Carl Bildt told the FT newspaper he believed the "Balkanisation of the British Isles" could set off "unforeseen chain reactions".

The FT quoted Mr Bildt as saying: "I think it (independence) is going to have more profound implications than people think.

"The Balkanisation of the British Isles is something we are not looking forward to. It opens up a lot, primarily in Scotland but also in the UK.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek

Looks like IKEA will be joining the list of boycott targets for the Nats.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...itics-27696769

That'll do a lot of good for Scottish jobs won't it...

[Chad]

This is actually bullying:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...r-Alex-Salmond

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chad

This is actually bullying:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...r-Alex-Salmond

Indeed, poor old blob fish, compared to that twit

Alistair Darling says Eck's comments about the BBC "beaming" Ukip into Scottish living rooms is the sort of thing Kim Jong Il would say.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...m-Jong-il.html

The nats, predictably, have burst a communal blood vessel. The problem is, they turned the outrage up to 11 a long time ago and nobody really takes any notice any more.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Chris

The problem is, they turned the outrage up to 11 a long time ago and nobody really takes any notice any more.

Except the opposition.

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Originally Posted by Derek

Looks like IKEA will be joining the list of boycott targets for the Nats.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...itics-27696769

Shocker. Ex Swedish prime minister states the obvious.