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Old 13-11-2021, 09:34   #8086
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Re: Africa has the lowest caseload in the world

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Thats not going to happen (registration).

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Why not just book your [her] own ?
We all use the NHS site to book ours.
You can change or cancel on their system as well.
Didn't help me Paul.I kept being offered places miles away.I was even offered the Isle of Wight. Would have meant driving to a IoW ferry departure point that would deposit me near to the site.Ridiculous! Eventually I walked to my surgery and they gave me a number to ring and the very nice young woman managed to get me an appointment at the next nearest surgery to my residence.
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Old 13-11-2021, 09:35   #8087
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Why not just book your [her] own ?
We all use the NHS site to book ours.
You can change or cancel on their system as well.
That's NHS England. Not applicable for NHS Wales.
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Re: Africa has the lowest caseload in the world

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Why not just book your [her] own ?
The system in Wales is that they invite you by letter for the jabs. Unless you are in the lower age groups who can do walk-ins.
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Re: Coronavirus

I received a text from my surgery with a link to book my booster there.

A week later (2 days before attending my already booked booster appointment) I received a text from the NHS with a link to book my booster through them . . . what a shambles.
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The system in Wales is that they invite you by letter for the jabs. Unless you are in the lower age groups who can do walk-ins.
Trust Wales to be different.

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I received a text from the NHS with a link to book my booster through them . . . what a shambles.
Why is it a shambles ?
The NHS system is not going to know you have a local appointment.

Besides which its better to be told twice than not at all.
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oh . . well I (wrongly assumed it seems) that the NHS - with it's expensive and powerful computer records system - would have been updated by someone/something in the 6 days between an appointment being booked and their text to me.

Obviously a crap system eh, which probably explains a lot, not just with Covid
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There isn’t a "system", there are multiple Primary Care (GP) systems, and numerous different systems in Hospitals and Secondary Care areas.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...Accessible.pdf

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Computerisation and the NHS
Of course, computerisation is not new to the NHS and its associated primary care practices. In fact the GP sector is nearly 100% digitised, and both patients and healthcare professionals experience its benefits tens of thousands of times each day. NHS Choices, a comprehensive health information site, receives more than 40 million patient visits each month. Moreover, the UK has established some internationally renowned research programmes, such as the UK Biobank and the 100,000 Genomes Project, whose potential to improve care is tightly linked to their integration with clinical information systems, both for data collection and to support clinical decision making at the point
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In contrast to the successes in the GP sector, the digitisation of hospitals has been far from smooth, and the patchy computerisation of this sector stands as a considerable impediment to transforming care. The ambitious National Programme for Information Technology (NPfIT), designed to digitise hospitals and trusts, was launched in 2002, only to be shut down nine years later (5). NPfIT did enjoy some successes, including the development of a national infrastructure to provide core services (the Spine); a single national patient identifier (the NHS number); and national electronic prescription and radiology programmes. But, against its primary goal of digitising the secondary care sector, NPfIT failed to deliver – largely because it was too centralised, failed to engage properly with trusts and their healthcare professionals, and tried to accomplish too much too quickly.
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digitising large, complex organisations – particularly those, like healthcare, that do not involve repetitive, assembly line-type work but rather work with substantial complexity, nuance, and decision making under uncertainty – is adaptive change of the highest order. Failure to appreciate this leads to many of the other problems: underestimation of the cost, complexity, and time needed for implementation; failure to ensure the engagement and involvement of front-line workers; and inadequate skill mix. It is thus not surprising that many health IT implementations fail, not only in England but around the world.
Since efforts to computerise a single organisation (a hospital, for instance) often fail, it is unsurprising that NPfIT – an attempt to digitise an entire sector of a massive healthcare system, operating in a resource- constrained and politicised environment – proved far more difficult than anticipated. As we try again to digitise the secondary care sector of the NHS, the question is how to learn from the lessons of NPfIT, as well as those of other countries that have traversed this path, particularly the US. Finally, there is a success story to point to: the digitisation of England’s GP sector.
tl:dr - the NHS (and it’s systems) isn’t a huge homogeneous monolithic business, it’s a conglomeration of hundreds/thousands smaller organisations, each of which has developed its own processes & systems over the last 70 odd years.

tl:dr even more - there isn’t a simple solution to a very complex problem
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That's NHS England. Not applicable for NHS Wales.
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Remember our "world beating" vaccination programme?

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The facts on the ground are that we are light years ahead of almost every country on earth with our vaccination programme, and particularly light years ahead of any European nation, because they all put their faith in a slow, bureaucratic process that was more interested in saving pennies than lives. There, but for the grace of Brexit, might have gone us.
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Yeah but them stats are all down to those who have refused the jab. As a country it has been offered almost everyone but we live in a free country
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So, when was it that Chris posted that we were ahead of nearly everyone in Europe?
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So, when was it that Chris posted that we were ahead of nearly everyone in Europe?
the vaccination program from the start was ahead of the rest of the EU and maybe still is. Jab rejection does not mean the program has failed it just means we have a lot of selfish people in this country
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the vaccination program from the start was ahead of the rest of the EU and maybe still is. Jab rejection does not mean the program has failed it just means we have a lot of selfish people in this country
Yes, I understand that, the point I was making was that at the time of the post made by Chris, we may well have been ahead of nearly everyone in Europe.
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It is not how you start the race, it is how your finish it.
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