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Old 18-07-2022, 11:55   #3661
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The Sky News Leadership Candidate debate has been cancelled: https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-...l-out-12654286

That's disappointing. It was great fun watching them tear chunks out of each other. It was also quite interesting to see the performances against what people expected of them.

Sunak was pretty polished and accomplished, makes sense he was the front runner. Kemi Badenoch was probably the breakout candidate, talks very well and is well suited to debating. She would be a big problem for Labour if she got the job I think. Tugendhat was good but I can't see Tory Members picking him.

I have no idea why Truss is rated so highly. I thought she performed terribly and didn't have a grasp on the issues she was talking about when challenged on them. I think Thatcher really maintains a hold on the Tory mindset that anyone who can even be vaguely compared with her - i.e a middle-aged white woman running for the leadership from the right of the party - gets an instant boost.

The worst thing for the Tories in these debates is how the candidates talk as if they're in opposition. Talking of how they can't find a dentist or the state of the economy as if they haven't in charge for 12 years is going to cause some people to throw stuff at their television.
You think any of these candidates use NHS dentistry?

Its been brilliant for the opposition. Loads of ammo, to throw whoever they choose. Your Chancellor said you were a ********* in the leadership contest
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Old 18-07-2022, 12:11   #3662
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You think any of these candidates use NHS dentistry?

Its been brilliant for the opposition. Loads of ammo, to throw whoever they choose. Your Chancellor said you were a ********* in the leadership contest
Unfortunately for Britain there is no effective opposition.
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

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The Sky News Leadership Candidate debate has been cancelled: https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-...l-out-12654286

That's disappointing. It was great fun watching them tear chunks out of each other. It was also quite interesting to see the performances against what people expected of them.

Sunak was pretty polished and accomplished, makes sense he was the front runner. Kemi Badenoch was probably the breakout candidate, talks very well and is well suited to debating. She would be a big problem for Labour if she got the job I think. Tugendhat was good but I can't see Tory Members picking him.

I have no idea why Truss is rated so highly. I thought she performed terribly and didn't have a grasp on the issues she was talking about when challenged on them. I think Thatcher really maintains a hold on the Tory mindset that anyone who can even be vaguely compared with her - i.e a middle-aged white woman running for the leadership from the right of the party - gets an instant boost.

The worst thing for the Tories in these debates is how the candidates talk as if they're in opposition. Talking of how they can't find a dentist or the state of the economy as if they haven't in charge for 12 years is going to cause some people to throw stuff at their television.
Delighted.I have no need to be harangued about a process in which I have no input.I can't vote and it's only for a smaller portion of the electorate anyway.Why should they get preferential treatment?
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I hope nothing historical gets damaged by adult partygoers as Downing Street took a bit of a bashing during the Partygate season (better known as "lockdown" for us plebs.)
It'll be OK as long as they didn't invite the cake, as we all know the cake has still got a lot of questions to answer. When historians we look back over the last decade or so, they'll find the cake was always there in the background, quietly plotting it's next political move.

And, don't forget, one of the cakes ancestors helped bring about a revolution in France and as any brexit MP will tell you, anything a French Baba Au Rhum can do our Victoria Sponge can do better! We have been warned .
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You think any of these candidates use NHS dentistry?

Its been brilliant for the opposition. Loads of ammo, to throw whoever they choose. Your Chancellor said you were a ********* in the leadership contest
That's why they won't be doing any more.
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Delighted.I have no need to be harangued about a process in which I have no input.I can't vote and it's only for a smaller portion of the electorate anyway.Why should they get preferential treatment?
Why should 67,000,000 plebs get to say who runs the country? Leave it to 358 MPs, they know best, I should think.
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67,000,000 ?

There are only 56 million [so called] adults in the UK.
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Old 18-07-2022, 18:10   #3668
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Why should 67,000,000 plebs get to say who runs the country? Leave it to 358 MPs, they know best, I should think.
Leave it to Conservative Party members. Third time lucky! 😂
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Tom Tugendhat out of the race as Sunak still leads field

Tom Tugendhat has been knocked out of the Tory leadership race after only receiving 31 votes in the third round of the vote.

Graham Brady said 357 votes were cast in the third round of the vote.

The results for the other candidates are as follows: Kemi Badenoch received 58, Penny Mordaunt got 82, Rishi Sunak got 115 and Liz Truss received 71.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tugendhat-live
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These debates are another unwanted US import.
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I'm off Mordaunt now. She went woke on Dad's Army and other BBC comedy shows that we all loved. Also she went woke with here negative views of the UK's colonial past.

So, she's off my list. I dread Truss.
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I'm off Mordaunt now. She went woke on Dad's Army and other BBC comedy shows that we all loved. Also she went woke with here negative views of the UK's colonial past.

So, she's off my list. I dread Truss.
Truss is a poor man's Johnson.

I reckon it's in the bag for Sunak but he's inheriting an economy burdened by the trinity of a Covid hangover, Ukraine invasion and Brexit trade friction. A thankless task but he's at least more realistic than the other chancers.
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I'm off Mordaunt now. She went woke on Dad's Army and other BBC comedy shows that we all loved. Also she went woke with here negative views of the UK's colonial past.

So, she's off my list. I dread Truss.
Yes Dad's Army is sacrosanct, and you're right about the BBC being brilliant. I've heard nothing from any of the candidates on how they are going to improve comtemporary sitcoms. Poor.

So Sunak for you then, enjoy !

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"hate isn't the word I'd have used, What I dislike about Sunak is threefold:

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His commitment to the UK is in question for reasons we all know.

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His personal wealth renders him disconnected from ordinary people (who know how to put petrol into a car and then pay for it).

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At the end of the day, he's up there with worst of the poor judgement lot. His petrol pump stunt would not have been performed by a more savvy person.
What a dilemma , if only Fabricant had run....There's no end of talent to choose from.
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You do realise that this was in response to Labour’s attempt to get a motion of no confidence in Boris Johnson, don’t you?

But yes, the Speaker’s response was very funny.

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