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Old 19-11-2020, 17:16   #1576
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Old 19-11-2020, 17:21   #1577
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How are you allowed to have partisan election chairs? It's ridiculous. Imagine if we elected Labour or Conservative politicians to run the election systems in different constituencies.
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Speaking of which...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/u...ter-fraud.html
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Giuliani in Public: ‘It’s a Fraud.’ Giuliani in Court: ‘This Is Not a Fraud Case.’

On Nov. 7, the day most media outlets called the race for Joe Biden, Rudy Giuliani stood outside a landscaping business in Philadelphia, making false claims about widespread election malfeasance.

Under questioning from a federal judge in Pennsylvania on Tuesday, Mr. Giuliani made a different admission: “This is not a fraud case,” he said.

Since Election Day, the Trump campaign and its allies have filed more than 30 lawsuits that seek to stop the certification of results or have ballots thrown out. None have gotten any real legal traction, as lawyers back away from suggestions that the election was stolen, admit under oath that there’s no sign of fraud and have their evidence dismissed as unreliable. One minor win in Pennsylvania set aside a relatively small number of ballots that hadn’t been counted yet — an inconsequential victory since Mr. Biden had already won the state without them.

Law firms that originally agreed to represent the Trump campaign and the Republican Party have withdrawn from the litigation. The lead counsel who has taken over in a Pennsylvania case, Marc Scaringi, said before he took the job that Mr. Trump’s legal effort “will not reverse this election.”
Like you, they keeping making claims with no evidence to back them up, hoping that if they throw enough stuff at the wall, the gullible will believe some of it is true, even without factual evidence to back it up.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/u...ter-fraud.html Like you, they keeping making claims with no evidence to back them up, hoping that if they throw enough stuff at the wall, the gullible will believe some of it is true, even without factual evidence to back it up.
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How are you allowed to have partisan election chairs? It's ridiculous. Imagine if we elected Labour or Conservative politicians to run the election systems in different constituencies.
Well if they have politically appointed judges, anything goes...
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Old 19-11-2020, 21:47   #1581
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Another lawsuit lost by the Republicans - that makes it 1-30.

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-c...014553-005.pdf
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IT IS ORDERED the motions to dismiss, by the Maricopa County defendants and the intervenors Secretary of State Katie Hobbs and Arizona Democratic Party, are granted. The plaintiff’s Verified Complaint will be dismissed with prejudice.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the plaintiff’s Application for Preliminary Injunction, to enjoin the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors from certifying the election results and issuing the official canvass, is denied. The motion to amend the complaint is denied as futile.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the Secretary of State may file a motion for attorneys’ fees pursuant to A.R.S. section 12-349 not later than December 7, 2020.
Dismissed with prejudice meaning they can't bring the same case up again, and also that the State can file to recover attorneys fees from the Republicans.
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They're moving away from legal cases it seems now. Trump is meeting with Michigan lawmakers at the White House tomorrow presumably to get them to vote for different electors.....
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They're moving away from legal cases it seems now. Trump is meeting with Michigan lawmakers at the White House tomorrow presumably to get them to vote for different electors.....
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...e-works-437749
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Having delegated the power to choose electors to voters in their states and having passed laws setting that process out for the 2020 election, legislators can’t just take it back without changing state law. Among other things, Democratic governors would also stand in the way in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

But there are other obstacles. The Campaign Legal Center’s Noti says that proponents of the “rogue legislature” theory for putting Trump back in the White House have also already run out of time.

They are ignoring a key clause of the Constitution, Noti says, which gives Congress the ability to dictate “the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes.”

"What people are saying is, ‘Well, we can determine to appoint electors ourselves.’ Which is true, if that had been the determination they made for the 2020 election,” Noti said. “But every state in the nation, as they have for more than a century, has made a different determination, which is to appoint electors by popular vote. And that’s what the legislature decided, and that is what, in fact, happened on Election Day.”

In effect, Noti said, states are bound by election laws they have previously passed. Congress “set the time of appointment as Nov. 3,” he continued. “So the legislative power to determine the method of appointment lasted until Nov. 3.”
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,...7662--,00.html

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What is the Electoral College?

Often misunderstood today, the Electoral College was established early in our country's history and continues to play an important role in the American political process. Although the name suggests ivy-covered walls and classrooms filled with books, the Electoral College is responsible for formally selecting the next president and vice president of the United States.

On the night of the Presidential Election, most Americans stay tuned to news reports to find out who won. But even after the final votes are tallied and the winner is announced, our choice for president and vice president is not official until the Electoral College casts its votes.

The Electoral College is comprised of 538 people, known as electors, chosen nationwide to meet in their home states and cast one vote per person for president and vice president. Michigan has 16 electors to reflect the number of senators and representatives it has in the U.S. Congress. Presidential candidates on the Michigan ballot submit a list of 16 qualified electors to the Secretary of State's Office. [B]The 16 electors whose candidate wins Michigan's popular vote will participate in the Electoral College at the State Capitol in December.

Electors pledge to support the candidate they represent and may not vote otherwise. Michigan voters can be assured that all 16 Michigan electoral votes automatically go to the presidential candidate winning the popular vote.
Most states distribute their Electoral College votes in the same "winner takes all" fashion as Michigan. However two states, Maine and Nebraska, apportion their electoral votes by congressional district.
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They're moving away from legal cases it seems now. Trump is meeting with Michigan lawmakers at the White House tomorrow presumably to get them to vote for different electors.....
We're following this order it appears.

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Georgia Confirms Joe Biden victory after the state conducted a recount.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/19/p...lts/index.html

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Biden beat Trump by 12,284 votes, according to the final results from the audit. This is a slight drop for Biden compared to the pre-audit results.

Officials have said repeatedly that the audit confirmed there was no widespread fraud or irregularities in the election.
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Georgia Confirms Joe Biden victory after the state conducted a recount.

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Doubtless some more Republucan officials are going to be 'terminated'. They're not playing the game...
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Certification is today I think so Trump needs to do something if he wants to stop it. He needs Georgia in this plan to flip everything back.
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Certification is today I think so Trump needs to do something if he wants to stop it. He needs Georgia in this plan to flip everything back.
It's 2024 or nothing for Trump now.
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It's 2024 or nothing for Trump now.
Or his golf courses, or his multi millions, or jail....
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