08-12-2019, 16:27
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Mick
Not really - They could make the best improvements all they like - I would not dump my car for public transport, nothing beats my own personal space when I am travelling.
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No ones saying Mick you have to dump your car but l am sure with a better public transport system there would be those who would use public transport far more then they are currently using..
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08-12-2019, 16:28
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Re: Pavement Parking
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The link doesn't work, Taf.
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https://publications.parliament.uk/p.../748/74815.htm
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08-12-2019, 16:31
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by denphone
No ones saying Mick you have to dump your car but l am sure with a better public transport system there would be those who would use public transport far more then they are currently using..
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I really don't think they would Den.
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08-12-2019, 16:35
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Paul
Incredibly stupid idea, it will block an massive number of roads.
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If vehicles are parked on roads so causing an obstruction, the police have powers to have them taken away.
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242 Highway Code
You MUST NOT leave your vehicle or trailer in a dangerous position or where it causes any unnecessary obstruction of the road.
Laws RTA 1988, sect 22 & CUR reg 103
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DO NOT stop or park
anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
in front of an entrance to a property
on a bend
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08-12-2019, 16:38
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Re: Pavement Parking
Everyone has their own circumstances. We've got the best transport system we'll ever get in this village. A personal vehicle is the difference between 2 and a bit hours travel to work and 15 minutes by personal vehicle.
Too many hurdles that simply won't or can't be solved. Those starting work in the AM's for one.
As for the topic. Police are so lazy here this will never be enforced. The way they've designed this village makes it fairly impossible anyway.
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08-12-2019, 16:52
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Mr K
It would help in a lot of ways if we limited it to one car per household. The multi car households are the main problem, along with cars getting stupidly big.
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That is a stupid Idea.
We are a 2 car household so by your recogning I drive to work 30 minutes away, and my parents use there car for there reqirements, including hospital.
The problem is (in my location) people parking in our street who don't live here, because our council has gone mad on Double Yellows.
I live on a hill will top only access, rather than put the crossing at the top (the bobble type for blind) thay put it 2 car spaces below where it should go, so 3 cars don't have the ability to park outside their house.
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08-12-2019, 17:07
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Mythica
There is an area near me that the council have painted on spaces for cars which is half on the road half on the pavement. This road is a bus route. What happens there?
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Councils will have the power to allow parking on pavements in certain designated areas.
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08-12-2019, 17:14
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
That is a stupid Idea.
We are a 2 car household so by your recogning I drive to work 30 minutes away, and my parents use there car for there reqirements, including hospital.
The problem is (in my location) people parking in our street who don't live here, because our council has gone mad on Double Yellows.
I live on a hill will top only access, rather than put the crossing at the top (the bobble type for blind) thay put it 2 car spaces below where it should go, so 3 cars don't have the ability to park outside their house.
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If you need a car because you're disabled or elderly then of course you'd need to be exempt.
The problem is too many cars and poor public transport, and many that are too lazy to walk anywhere. We're getting like the obese US population but we don't have the space for all the cars. How about doubling car tax for every extra car per house? No politician is brave enough to grasp this one but something radical needs to happen to curb the number of cars. It'll self defeating in the end for the climate, or being able to get anywhere through the congestion.
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08-12-2019, 17:20
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Mr K
If you need a car because you're disabled or elderly then of course you'd need to be exempt.
The problem is too many cars and poor public transport, and many that are too lazy to walk anywhere. We're getting like the obese US population but we don't have the space for all the cars. How about doubling car tax for every extra car per house? No politician is brave enough to grasp this one but something radical needs to happen to curb the number of cars. It will be self defeating in the end for the climate, or being able to get anywhere through the congestion.
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I don't think more cars will affect the climate in a negative way as petrol and deisel cars will soon be a thing of the past.
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08-12-2019, 21:37
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Re: Pavement Parking
I am really happy about this. People constantly parking on pavements when the road is double yellow lines. Thinking it doesn't count if they are 100% up on the pavement.
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08-12-2019, 21:51
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Re: Pavement Parking
I have just read the date of this report that Taf links to, 2006, 13 years ago.
No recent Bill has passed the House of Commons on Pavement parking and if any Bill was in 2nd reading it fell when Parliament was Prorogued for the second time in October 2019.
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08-12-2019, 22:08
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Mick
I have just read the date of this report that Taf links to, 2006, 13 years ago.
No recent Bill has passed the House of Commons on Pavement parking and if any Bill was in 2nd reading it fell when Parliament was Prorogued for the second time in October 2019.
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It may back on the cards again , the Commons Transport committee recommended a ban only a couple of months ago. But with a new Govt., who knows?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49635176
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. Parking on pavements should be banned across England, according to MPs.
The Commons' Transport Committee has called for a new law and an awareness campaign on the impact it has, especially for those with mobility or visual impairments.
The Department for Transport said it had concluded a review into the issue and would be announcing its next steps "over the coming months".
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08-12-2019, 22:34
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Re: Pavement Parking
So we are years away then from anything concrete, good, it's a stupid move that will cause more issues that it is worth.
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08-12-2019, 22:47
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Re: Pavement Parking
Actually the main issue would be a distinct lack of traffic wardens..Especially as most of them have become self employed around here and thus are only to be found in the town car parks where it's more profitable.
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09-12-2019, 08:28
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Re: Pavement Parking
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Originally Posted by Maggy
Actually the main issue would be a distinct lack of traffic wardens..Especially as most of them have become self employed around here and thus are only to be found in the town car parks where it's more profitable.
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That's a scam in itself that needs clamping down on, how are these people self employed?
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