Brexit

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European Parliament voting intention.

BREX: 34% (+4)
LAB: 16% (-5)
LDEM: 15% (+5)
GRN: 11% (+2)
CON: 10% (-3)
CHUK: 5% (-4)

via @YouGov
Chgs. w/ 30 Apr

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

If abolishing the BBC was in their manifesto I'd vote for them

They'd need to have one in the first place.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

We won't be in the EU for much more than five minutes after the elections, if at all.

Lol.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

They'd need to have one in the first place.

If being the pejorative word notwithstanding. They don't have manifesto, I don't have a tv licence, seems like we're all missing something these days

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

As I've said before, if the turnout is high (which I doubt), we will have had a referendum of sorts.

Rubbish. The vote is too fine grained to be viewed as such. What it will be is a reflection and judgement on the failed 2 party system.

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Originally Posted by Damien

He is meant to challenge politicians and ask difficult questions. People slagging off Marr because he was mean to a politician is the story every week, just like when Labour supporters get angry that he does it to Labour politicians.

It is refreshing to see the BBC challenge Farage at last. He is the Brexit Party and given they have no manifesto, it is correct that his views are examined on a range of issues.

So we have seen Farage:

- lying endlessly over No Deal
- wanting to break up the NHS
- climate change denying
- admiring Putin
- etc.

And even with these glowing credentials, so many people like him and his "policies" What weird times we live it.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Rubbish. The vote is too fine grained to be viewed as such. What it will be is a reflection and judgement on the failed 2 party system.

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It is refreshing to see the BBC challenge Farage at last. He is the Brexit Party and given they have no manifesto, it is correct that his views are examined on a range of issues.

So we have seen Farage:

- lying endlessly over No Deal
- wanting to break up the NHS
- climate change denying
- admiring Putin
- etc.

And even with these glowing credentials, so many people like him and his "policies" What weird times we live it.

Yes he likes a pint and a fag and despises Johnny foreigner and the poor. Top bloke . Unfortunately a lot see no further than their own base instincts.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Rubbish. The vote is too fine grained to be viewed as such. What it will be is a reflection and judgement on the failed 2 party system.

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It is refreshing to see the BBC challenge Farage at last. He is the Brexit Party and given they have no manifesto, it is correct that his views are examined on a range of issues.

So we have seen Farage:

- lying endlessly over No Deal
- wanting to break up the NHS
- climate change denying
- admiring Putin
- etc.

And even with these glowing credentials, so many people like him and his "policies" What weird times we live it.

Did you actually watch Nigel Farage on the Marr Show? He answered those questions.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Rubbish. The vote is too fine grained to be viewed as such. What it will be is a reflection and judgement on the failed 2 party system.

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It is refreshing to see the BBC challenge Farage at last. He is the Brexit Party and given they have no manifesto, it is correct that his views are examined on a range of issues.

So we have seen Farage:

- lying endlessly over No Deal
- wanting to break up the NHS
- climate change denying
- admiring Putin
- etc.

And even with these glowing credentials, so many people like him and his "policies" What weird times we live it.

It's called Democracy, something you are ignoring and abusing by wanting your way when your side lost!

• Btw - He never lied over no deal.
  
• He does not want to break up the NHS.
  
• Not aware of him denying climate change.
  
• He does not admire Putin, you misspelled Corbyn.

There is no point in having a manifesto - Labour has not stuck to their last one and neither has the Tories, so I ask you what's the point ?

The weirdness here is being obsessed with a document parties usually always never stick to.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Did you actually watch Nigel Farage on the Marr Show? He answered those questions.

ianch probably watched the "small" group of Lib Dem Activists standing on Millionaires row, made to look like a ton of people, with that annoying EU weasel, Guy Verhofstadt.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Did you actually watch Nigel Farage on the Marr Show? He answered those questions.

You mean he tried to tried to wriggle out of his past record on these issues.

Originally Posted by ianch99

You mean he tried to tried to wriggle out of his past record on these issues.

His past record is irrelevant - it's a party that will implement Brexit, it will always get my vote, as I said and others, the devil could be their leader, I will still vote for it - get it yet?

You're smearing and lying is wasted on here.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

It's called Democracy, something you are ignoring and abusing by wanting your way when your side lost!

• Btw - He never lied over no deal.
  
• He does not want to break up the NHS.
  
• Not aware of him denying climate change.
  
• He does not admire Putin, you misspelled Corbyn.

There is no point in having a manifesto - Labour has not stuck to their last one and neither has the Tories, so I ask you what's the point ?

The weirdness here is being obsessed with a document parties usually always never stick to.

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ianch probably watched the "small" group of Lib Dem Activists standing on Millionaires row, made to look like a ton of people, with that annoying EU weasel, Guy Verhofstadt.

Here you go:

> He does not want to break up the NHS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-9988904.html

The leaked film recording showed Mr Farage telling Ukip supporters in 2012: “I think we are going to have to move to an insurance-based system of healthcare. Frankly, I would feel more comfortable that my money would return value if I was able to do that through the marketplace of an insurance company, than just us trustingly giving £100bn a year to central government and expecting them to organise the healthcare service from cradle to grave for us.”

> Not aware of him denying climate change.

https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/st...70110050340864

Reminder. @Nigel_Farage is a climate change denier. This is from 11 September 2013.

> He does not admire Putin, you misspelled Corbyn.

Nigel Farage: Vladimir Putin is the world leader I most admire

Oh, I forgot to add he wants more guns as well

Nigel Farage calls for UK gun laws to be relaxed

The man is a car crash .. now that is another thing I could add

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Originally Posted by Mick

His past record is irrelevant - it's a party that will implement Brexit, it will always get my vote, as I said and others, the devil could be their leader, I will still vote for it - get it yet?

You're smearing and lying is wasted on here.

No smears or lying here, just facts. But then these are no longer required, right?

The Brexit project is all about getting over the line through fair means or foul. As Chris said, he does not care is Satan himself is in charge of the Brexit Party he would support them.

It is all about the getting over the line .. principles optional.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Here you go:

> He does not want to break up the NHS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-9988904.html



> Not aware of him denying climate change.

https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/st...70110050340864



> He does not admire Putin, you misspelled Corbyn.

Nigel Farage: Vladimir Putin is the world leader I most admire

Oh, I forgot to add he wants more guns as well

Nigel Farage calls for UK gun laws to be relaxed

The man is a car crash .. now that is another thing I could add

No smears or lying here, just facts. But then these are no longer required, right?

The Brexit project is all about getting over the line through fair means or foul. As Chris said, he does not care is Satan himself is in charge of the Brexit Party he would support them.

It is all about the getting over the line .. principles optional.

I repeat - he does not want to break up the NHS, it's not BP Policy.

He does not admire Putin. I repeat, you have misspelled Corbyn.

At the end of the day - It is none of your business who I and others vote for and why I/they vote for them but I will not have you come on here and deride other members or accuse them of not having any principles when they fully do, I have principles, mainly about respecting Democratic principles and I will not have you say I don't, so stop it.

P.S The foulness you speak of, is emanating from your side. Not the Brexiteers, we want our democratic decision implemented, as that is what was voted for, in a Democratic and fair, legal process in 2016 and again in 2017.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

You mean he tried to tried to wriggle out of his past record on these issues.

He answered them. Sorry you didn't like his answers.

[Mr K]

Corbyn/May quite rightly get questioned on things they've said and done in the past, why is our Nigel immune? He said he wanted to privatise the NHS, scrape the surface and his populism will wither. Happened with, UKIP, will happen again, still he can always start another party...

Originally Posted by Mr K

Corbyn/May quite rightly get questioned on things they've said and done in the past, why is our Nigel immune? He said he wanted to privatise the NHS, scrape the surface and his populism will wither. Happened with, UKIP, will happen again, still he can always start another party...

This is where as usual - you get things wrong.

His populism is rising again and for good reason and he is ONLY here because Anti-Democratic imbeciles in parliament and elsewhere are trying to thwart the result of the 2016 Referendum.

He would have faded in to a distant memory had the vote been implemented, it has not, so quite rightly he's back on the scene and more popular than ever, serves you Remainer lot right.

I told you lot we would not sit back and allow our Democratic decision to be ignored. This is what happens, so Nigel being back, is ON YOU, so well done!!!

[Mr K]

He's a bit of a down-market version of Trump really. The British people don't want that at the end of the day.