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Old 22-04-2019, 22:22   #676
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)

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l am talking about Sky Atlantic Richard.
I’d be as delighted as the next VM subscriber if SA arrived but there’s no indication from negotiations that it’s on the table. On BT subscribers will soon be able to subscribe to Now TV through BT. This also appears delayed was it not due in early 2019?
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I’d be as delighted as the next VM subscriber if SA arrived but there’s no indication from negotiations that it’s on the table. On BT subscribers will soon be able to subscribe to Now TV through BT. This also appears delayed was it not due in early 2019?
In fact, there's no word at all on the negotiations. Don't expect to hear anything until it's a done deal.

As far as the BT deal is concerned, it's still early 2019.

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In fact, there's no word at all on the negotiations. Don't expect to hear anything until it's a done deal.
Or not, as was the case with UKTV and the infamous Sky Basics dispute in 2007!
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Or not, as was the case with UKTV and the infamous Sky Basics dispute in 2007!
The Sky Basics dispute was a very low point in relations between VM and Sky - things have changed very significantly since then, and Sky is also looking to monetise its assets.

UKTV was a different issue altogether. I can't see those channels lasting that much longer. Britbox will probably hasten their demise.
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In fact, there's no word at all on the negotiations. Don't expect to hear anything until it's a done deal.

As far as the BT deal is concerned, it's still early 2019.
You have been saying that for a eternity OB and still we wait...

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The Sky Basics dispute was a very low point in relations between VM and Sky - things have changed very significantly since then, and Sky is also looking to monetise its assets.

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That does not mean they will monetise all their assets.

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UKTV was a different issue altogether. I can't see those channels lasting that much longer. Britbox will probably hasten their demise.
You seem very overconfident in Britbox's future success as perhaps you need to be reminded of Project Kangaroo and then there was the BBC's ill fated BBC Store experiment which lasted exactly two years so who says Britbox is going to be the great success you hope it is going to be OB.
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)

It is also worth pointing out that Sky is now under Comcast ownership , the American's are renowned for negotiating hard in these carriage agreements.

That's not me saying it won't happen but only on the terms Comcast are happy with.
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Virgin Media to launch Amazon Prime app.

https://www.libertyglobal.com/wp-con...ith-Amazon.pdf

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-video-1203961

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Starting this summer, Virgin Media will be the first of Liberty Global’s European operations to integrate the Amazon Prime Video app into its Ultra HD V6 set-top box, making the Amazon service available to around 4 million Virgin Media TV customers.
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Analysts have said that the integration of streaming services into pay TV platforms helps the latter to provide more ease of use to consumers and reduce customer churn. For the streaming services, it is an opportunity to become more easily accessible on traditional pay TV services and possibly gain new subscribers.
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Well well well! That is a surprise. It seems odd its taken them that long to come to an "agreement" since its a win win for both sides? Amazon get into peoples living rooms easier and virgin get to brag about their apps and tivo box offering access to everything
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You have been saying that for a eternity OB and still we wait...

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That does not mean they will monetise all their assets.

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You seem very overconfident in Britbox's future success as perhaps you need to be reminded of Project Kangaroo and then there was the BBC's ill fated BBC Store experiment which lasted exactly two years so who says Britbox is going to be the great success you hope it is going to be OB.
Project Kangaroo never got launched because of the competition authorities' worries. Worries that have been put into perspective now because of Netflix's popularity. PK was pretty much identical to BritBox, the only real difference is timing and market changes. They are so worried about overseas companies decimating the UK TV industry they are no longer worried about the lack of UK competition that them all cooperating for BritBox would mean.

And it is likely the rights to UK shows in the UK market will become exclusive to a combination of BritBox and the big UK broadcasters own services (ITV Hub, All4, iPlayer) so UK customers won't be watching them via likes of Netflix (unless they are co-productions). Disney withdrew rights for their content from Netflix, UK broadcasters will gradually likely do the same, except for international markets.
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Project Kangaroo never got launched because of the competition authorities' worries. Worries that have been put into perspective now because of Netflix's popularity. PK was pretty much identical to BritBox, the only real difference is timing and market changes. They are so worried about overseas companies decimating the UK TV industry they are no longer worried about the lack of UK competition that them all cooperating for BritBox would mean.

And it is likely the rights to UK shows in the UK market will become exclusive to a combination of BritBox and the big UK broadcasters own services (ITV Hub, All4, iPlayer) so UK customers won't be watching them via likes of Netflix (unless they are co-productions). Disney withdrew rights for their content from Netflix, UK broadcasters will gradually likely do the same, except for international markets.
Got it in one!

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Blimey, you're on the ball today, Den, well done. That's another tick on my wish list!
Very good news for Virgin customers, well done to them!

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You have been saying that for a eternity OB and still we wait...[COLOR="Silver"]

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You exaggerate, Den. Some years ago, following a report in Broadcast, I said that I thought Sky Atlantic would be coming to Virgin, but unfortunately that report turned out to be untrue (or maybe there was a problem in the negotiations - maybe we will never know which it was).

It is also true that I have been saying since last year that I thought that SA would at last be coming to our screens, based on what Sky have already strongly intimated in their press release following the BT deal.

So the first time it didn't come about. Second time lucky.

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That does not mean they will monetise all their assets.
I was referring only to SA, not necessarily all their assets, although the report did indicate that they were carrying out a complete review.
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Once all these movies are on their respective services things will be a right mess , I can see PPV becoming more popular as people get selective and choose the films they want.
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You seem very overconfident in Britbox's future success as perhaps you need to be reminded of Project Kangaroo and then there was the BBC's ill fated BBC Store experiment which lasted exactly two years so who says Britbox is going to be the great success you hope it is going to be OB.
Not over-confident, but there seem to be enough people around who like watching old material over and over, and Britbox promises to have plenty of that!
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)

I do think sky atlantic will be "coming soon" due to the announcement sky made and the fact sky and virgin seem quite pally at the moment.

Another reason why i think it'll be coming soon? Sky Atlantic's big draw is "game of thrones". Yes there are other programmes on there which people like but the big draw for sky atlantic is the huge bandwagon for game of thrones which people are getting all worked up by.

Once thats done in a few weeks time what does sky atlantic really have as a blockbuster exclusive? Not that much and since they're producing their own dramas for sky atlantic now there doesnt seem to be too much point withholding it when its main attraction will have finished.
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I do think sky atlantic will be "coming soon" due to the announcement sky made and the fact sky and virgin seem quite pally at the moment.

Another reason why i think it'll be coming soon? Sky Atlantic's big draw is "game of thrones". Yes there are other programmes on there which people like but the big draw for sky atlantic is the huge bandwagon for game of thrones which people are getting all worked up by.

Once thats done in a few weeks time what does sky atlantic really have as a blockbuster exclusive? Not that much and since they're producing their own dramas for sky atlantic now there doesnt seem to be too much point withholding it when its main attraction will have finished.
Assuming we get the channel, hopefully we will also get a good selection of on demand content from the channel. This will show you what we've been missing these last few years.

Incidentally, there are at least two sequals to GoT, so I think there will be enough to keep us amused for a while yet! Remember that SA is the exclusive home for HBO content in the UK at present.
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Assuming we get the channel, hopefully we will also get a good selection of on demand content from the channel. This will show you what we've been missing these last few years.

Incidentally, there are at least two sequals to GoT, so I think there will be enough to keep us amused for a while yet! Remember that SA is the exclusive home for HBO content in the UK at present.
Couple of years away i'd imagine and it seems game of thrones was the real draw for sky atlantic. i'd imagine the ratings would confirm this. It may just be a case of

"well the contract is up with virgin media and game of thrones was our big draw...may as well give them the channel now and get more money on advertising."
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