4K : UHD on Virgin Media

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Wimbledon tennis to be screened in 4K HDR by BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44550307

Via iplayer again which means i won't get to see it properly, i just don't understand why i can view the football UHD feed but think it is downscaled for me, as there is no mention of downscaling the feed for TVs not on the list?

[DVD Cinema]

What about Eurosport 4K for Wimbledon?

Wimbledon will be HLG and HDR on BBC, so more viewing chances.

4K on Sky Q broadcast, what about Cable?

[awesometeeth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Your ‘defence’ of the BBC is quite unconvincing.

"However, this time the BBC also plans to make select matches available in 4K - but not HDR - to Sky Q customers."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44550307



So where are you posts calling out all the blatant lies I had to wade through?

yeah your defence of the bbc has a strong odour of something...

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Originally Posted by ozsat

NICAM stereo - a BBC development which could only be received for nearly FIVE years as a trial in LONDON - and required NEW tv and/or VCR.

The BBC ran HD trials for 18 months before making them available to everybody who purchased new receiving equipment to view in HD. It was a long long time before DTT only viewers got to see HD transmissions.

The BBC ran 3D DTT trials making them available to everybody - who purchased new receiving equipment to view in 3D.

ITV eventuallly caught up with some things - but doesn't really have much interest in technology only money.

whoops

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44550307

"However, this time the BBC also plans to make select matches available in 4K - but not HDR - to Sky Q customers."



edit: and im sure a couple of you are genuine BBC supporters being pulled along by the quite obvious rubbish some have spouted on here about neutral platforms and costs and trials.

be aware that those, especially those who double down against people like me, might actually be full of absolute tosh. luckily it didnt take long for the BBC to semi fix its mistake and show those in this thread who tried so hard to make the BBC look stupid that they are full of it.

shame, buts the times, special kiss to my two really unpleasant friends who attacked me for wanting the BBC to make sensible decisions

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Originally Posted by DVD Cinema

What about Eurosport 4K for Wimbledon?

Wimbledon will be HLG and HDR on BBC, so more viewing chances.

4K on Sky Q broadcast, what about Cable?

this is the question. no reason why both cant take the feed as virgin is clearly capable.

hopefully its being sorted out in the background....

No one in this thread (besides yourself with your passive-aggressive comments) is attacking the BBC - we just understand it's a very complex technical solution, and "something magic" isn't going to happen overnight.

Your "defence" of the BBC seems to be saying how crap it is, and why doesn't it do what you want when you want - this is like Stalin defending the Soviet Army by executing his generals...

[awesometeeth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

No one in this thread (besides yourself with your passive-aggressive comments) is attacking the BBC - we just understand it's a very complex technical solution, and "something magic" isn't going to happen overnight.

Your "defence" of the BBC seems to be saying how crap it is, and why doesn't it do what you want when you want - this is like Stalin defending the Soviet Army by executing his generals...

except Hugh, something magical did happen over night. the BBC is now doing a red button feed for other platforms for Wimbledon. something I was told wasn't possible due to the BBC charter and a myriad of other things.

its helpful if you read my posts and dont make passive aggressive comments, then it might make sense.

what I said all along is that the BBC is handing ammunition to its critics, actual real people I have read attacking the BBC when the iplayer feed isnt working.

now, this is really simple, all the BBC had to do was provide the streams to sky and virgin at the same time as the iplayer trial and it would have allowed them to test their HLG workflow and also provide users with a reliable 4k picture.

they are partly doing this for Wimbledon, so clearly all the made up tosh I had to wade through was pure fabrication by some users. why would they do this? why would a user make up stuff that makes the BBC look bad in the eyes of some people?

you tell me.

but the reality, the BBC did screw up by not providing the feeds to sky and virgin and it seems this blip is being rectified and hopefully will be a one off.

now lets be clear, if the BBC did only go down the iplayer route for 4k content for live events like the world cup, it would instantly rule out so many people and thats really not what the BBC needs to be doing at a time when its under attack from politically and commercially motivated people.

honestly hugh, its that simple. I like the BBC, always have. but unlike you, I am aware of the negative comments made about this "trial" and you just want to ignore those attacks. which to me is hardly the action of someone who genuinely wants to avoid the BBC going down the pan, which is a very real possibility if you had your eyes open.

now, bizarrely, we are back to the question of why isn't virgin getting the feed and I hope the reason is that its being sorted out. as for the same reason, now we have had experience of 4k on our V6 boxes, there is only going to be negative feelings if virgin users miss out on something sky 4k users will get.

[Raider999]

There's a surprise - Wimbledon in glorious UHD - now we know why the World Cup is being used to trial it, should have known all BBC cares about.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Raider999

There's a surprise - Wimbledon in glorious UHD - now we know why the World Cup is being used to trial it, should have known all BBC cares about.

With Wimbledon it still in the trial phase.

The Ultra HD trial is already featuring in the BBC's World Cup 2018 coverage and is being extended to cover Wimbledon. It is part of ongoing work to help get the BBC ready for a future where major live events can be streamed freely over the internet in high quality on BBC iPlayer.

[muppetman11]

The Wimbledon UHD on Sky Q is only the semi finals and final and can be accessed via the red button off the BBC channels.

[Gavin-D]

All UHD coverage at Wimbledon will be from Centre Court only

Sky Q customers will not get the HDR coverage they'll get 4K only

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Gavin-D

All UHD coverage at Wimbledon will be from Centre Court only

Sky Q customers will not get the HDR coverage they'll get 4K only

Already posted in the link on the last page , it would be impossible to provide HDR considering the current Q box hasn't received the HDR update yet and the BBC are delivering HDR as a trial over broadband as opposed to satellite like the Wimbledon UHD will be delivered on Sky.

[DVD Cinema]

Fingers crossed for Wimbledon 4K on Virgin Cable.

[Gavin-D]

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema

Fingers crossed for Wimbledon 4K on Virgin Cable.

Given we've already got the world cup we are almost certain to get it on VM

[OLD BOY]

If you can receive the World Cup in UHD, you will be able to get Wimbledon (but on a first come, first served basis).

[DVD Cinema]

Originally Posted by Gavin-D

Given we've already got the world cup we are almost certain to get it on VM

I mean Wimbledon broadcast on Cable in 4K, like to Sky Q, not iPlayer.

[RobboEdin]

Originally Posted by DVD Cinema

I mean Wimbledon broadcast on Cable in 4K, like to Sky Q, not iPlayer.

Why?
HD channel + TV upscaling = 4K

iPlayer + TV = 4K HLG