U.S Election 2020

If the result is decisive there isn't much he can do. I don't see the Republicans contesting it if it's clear and so Trump will be on his own. He could complain but he can't stop the process.

The worry is a close election like last time is likely to be contested irrespective of who wins.

[papa smurf]

And remember the Russians are backing Joe

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

And remember the Russians are backing Joe

Who is Israel supporting?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Who is Israel supporting?

Depends on what's being offered.

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Ooops he did it again

Mr Biden stated that he got to the Senate "180 years ago" and seemed unaware that he had made the mistake.

Looking at him he could be right.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...mocrats-update

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Depends on what's being offered.

Peace deal with Saudi Arabia, etc?

I put my question because Jewish people in the USA, according to my perception, are likely to be Democrats. Yet the current Administration's achievements in regard to the recent peace deals with Israel would seem to be praiseworthy.

As in Jewish votes matter.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Peace deal with Saudi Arabia, etc?

I put my question because Jewish people in the USA, according to my perception, are likely to be Democrats. Yet the current Administration's achievements in regard to the recent peace deals with Israel would seem to be praiseworthy.

As in Jewish votes matter.

I wouldn't want to call that one.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Peace deal with Saudi Arabia, etc?

I put my question because Jewish people in the USA, according to my perception, are likely to be Democrats. Yet the current Administration's achievements in regard to the recent peace deals with Israel would seem to be praiseworthy.

As in Jewish votes matter.

I think it's a bit simplistic to conflate Jewish US citizens with the country of Israel.
And I don't think many countries would openly advocate for one party or other in the US election as the US is such a powerful country and you don't want to get on the wrong side of them as China has found to its cost.

[Mr K]

Thing is most religions have a strong moral code, be it Jewish, Catholic, Muslim. Donald doesn't fit it with any of them. Even some of the evangelical base are seeing him for what he is - a very immoral man.

[downquark1]

The problem they face is they are presented with the choice of a immoral man who at least claims will do what they want and a moral man who claims to do the opposite of what they want.

What would you choose?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

And remember the Russians are backing Joe

Russia is strongly anti-Biden according to Trump appointee William Evanina, director of the United States National Counterintelligence and Security Center

Russia's latest efforts are "consistent with Moscow's public criticism of [Biden] when he was Vice President for his role in the Obama Administration's policies on Ukraine and its support for the anti-Putin opposition inside Russia," said Friday's statement, which was issued by Trump appointee William Evanina, director of the United States National Counterintelligence and Security Center.

The countries said to be against Trump are China and Iran.

"We assess that China prefers that President Trump -- whom Beijing sees as unpredictable -- does not win reelection," the statement said. "China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of November 2020 to shape the policy environment in the United States, pressure political figures it views as opposed to China's interests, and deflect and counter criticism of China."

On Iran, Evanina's statement said the regime there is working against "democratic institutions" in general, but also looking to "undermine" Trump and "to divide the country in advance of the 2020 elections."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chin...ry?id=72241806

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Russia is strongly anti-Biden according to Trump appointee William Evanina, director of the United States National Counterintelligence and Security Center


The countries agitating against Trump are said to be China and Iran.


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chin...ry?id=72241806

A President with senile dementia is a god send to America's enemies of course they back him.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

A President with senile dementia is a god send to America's enemies of course they back him.

It's par for the course, Reagan wasn't exactly compos mentus and Trump declines by the day if that's possible.

They really need to put an age limit on US Presidents.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

It's par for the course, Reagan wasn't exactly compos mentus and Trump declines by the day if that's possible.

They really need to put an age limit on US Presidents.

I agree but not just presidents the whole political system is run by coffin dodgers.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by downquark1

The problem they face is they are presented with the choice of a immoral man who at least claims will do what they want and a moral man who claims to do the opposite of what they want.

What would you choose?

Only a sub-set of people in those faiths cited hold such strong views on abortion, etc.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think it's a bit simplistic to conflate Jewish US citizens with the country of Israel.
And I don't think many countries would openly advocate for one party or other in the US election as the US is such a powerful country and you don't want to get on the wrong side of them as China has found to its cost.

I'm influenced by this article.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...cs-israel.aspx which includes this:

... The data show that despite Trump's commentary, Jews in the U.S. are both highly likely to identify as Democrats and vote for Democratic candidates and to express views that are highly loyal to Israel. .....