Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

OB was right.

There's always a first time...

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Definitely proof Bojo was at a drinks party when it was against the rules…

Possibly just walked into the office to see who was singing off key while he was trying to sleep?

How about everyone actually posts when something new actually happens instead of this useless and endless speculation and constant sideswiping at other CF members.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Carth

Possibly just walked into the office to see who was singing off key while he was trying to sleep?

I'm sure that's the explanation, he's an honourable chap who wouldn't try and pull the wool over peoples eyes

Originally Posted by Carth

Possibly just walked into the office to see who was singing off key while he was trying to sleep?

Probably just got up, put on a suit and tie, then just walked down from the second floor of 11 Downing Street and made his way through a maze of corridors to see who was singing off key in an office in 10 Downing Street whilst he was trying to sleep?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Maggy

How about everyone actually posts when something new actually happens instead of this useless and endless speculation and constant sideswiping at other CF members.

Isn't that what OB has been saying all along?

Originally Posted by Carth

Isn't that what OB has been saying all along?

How about just posting pertinent facts?

[Sephiroth]

When you add it all up, even Major was right - and he presided over some bad shit including his own cover-up. Boris' sins include:

1. The Owen Paterson affair where Boris tried to protect his sleazy friend;

2. The Russian Chinese donations to MPs;

3. Partygate.

4. Reneging on manifesto commitments about tax.

He's awful, and his nodding heads.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

When you add it all up, even Major was right - and he presided over some bad shit including his own cover-up. Boris' sins include:

1. The Owen Paterson affair where Boris tried to protect his sleazy friend;

2. The Chinese donations to MPs;

3. Partygate.

4. Reneging on manifesto commitments about tax.

He's awful, and his nodding heads.

You missed out the VIP Covid lane, writing off billions in fraud, Russian donations to Tory MP's, etc.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

You missed out the VIP Covid lane, writing off billions in fraud, Russian donations to Tory MP's, etc.

My earlier post is duly amended. Thanks.

I think I'll let them off the tax thing due to COVID to be fair. Maybe a stupid promise to make though.

The Paterson stuff was worse than the parties IMO, just proper corruption and arrogance to think the rules don't apply to them so they'll change those rules if they're caught breaking them. Worst of all was the minister who said the women who investigated him should 'consider her position'!! That is the absolute height of their arrogance, it was their own rules and commission but they openly went out to change the rules to get their mate off the hook with glee thinking they can do whatever they want. Since then everything has gone a bit wrong for them.

Similar to the parties though they pretended they were the victims because the rules they set were unfair even though they were the ones who made them.

[1andrew1]

More sleaze

A Tory MP who has been paid £32,000 by the betting industry sent private letters to ministers warning them about the consequences of introducing tough new laws on “harmless gambling”.

Laurence Robertson, the MP for Tewkesbury, is paid £2,000 a month by the Betting and Gaming Council (BCG), the lobbying group that represents bookmakers. Last year he enjoyed free tickets worth thousands of pounds to watch cricket at Lord’s, horse racing at Doncaster and football at Wembley, courtesy of the gambling industry.

The Times has obtained a private email sent by Robertson, 63, to the gambling minister warning of the risks of tougher legislation. It was sent at about the time that the government announced a crackdown as part of a review of the Gambling Act. Almost a year and a half later no new laws have been announced and publication could be delayed until as late as May.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...d86ab55b4987c1

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

More sleaze

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...d86ab55b4987c1

Not really, that's pretty much how lobbying and government has always been and always will be.

I have been racking my mind to try and remember who it is that Boris reminds me of. It’s just hit me. Benny Hill.

[1andrew1]

I thought this an interesting overview of what Johnson's team are doing behind the scenes to influence public opinion.

How No 10 is testing out excuses to enable Boris Johnson to escape the Partygate scandal

Friendly newspapers are being briefed about what are either, depending on your point of view, the clever arguments his lawyers will employ – or their increasingly desperate excuses.

The motive is clear: this is a softening up exercise to try to shift public opinion about what was acceptable behaviour for Mr Johnson, during the lockdowns he imposed, with a none-too-subtle threat to the police tossed in...

So, it has been briefed that Mr Johnson will acknowledge he attended up to 6 rule-busting gatherings the Met is investigating, but will argue they were “part of his working life”.

“For each event, the prime minister will use details in his diary and call logs to highlight that he was present only briefly and that he continued with other work-related events afterwards,” The Times was told...

Meanwhile, slavishly loyal Tory MPs are sent out to argue a fine for breaking Covid rules is no more serious than a speeding ticket, or parking on a red line.

To understand what a seismic shift this is, we need to remember both what Mr Johnson originally told parliament and what broke the rules he brought in.

As a former Tory attorney-general has reminded us, MPs were told there were no parties and that no rules were breached – so, not only the goalposts, but the entire pitch is being uprooted by No 10.

And, as lawyers have repeatedly pointed out, no such thing as a “work event” existed in the lockdown laws. What matters is whether gatherings were “reasonably necessary for work”. It is clearly hard to argue an event was necessary for work when those attending have been told to “bring your own booze” or ABBA songs are blasting out – so that effort needs to start now.

From The Independent via MSN
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...?ocid=msedgntp

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The PM was/is not above the law, especially when he has made the law.

That said, I can see a defence he could use; namely that he was at his place of work doing stuff his work demands.

See above.

It is hard to argue that the parties were necessary for work and no such thing as a work event existed during lockdown. And let's not forget that Johnson told Parliament that there had been no parties.