22-10-2019, 23:11
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Ran Away
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: 1Gb Review
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Originally Posted by NoCableForMe
Some games on Steam can be 60,70, 80+ GB and are only set to get bigger.
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Don't get me started, twice now Kush has made me download two games which are 126gb which we have played for 1 hour and then I uninstalled.
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23-10-2019, 11:05
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#32
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FORMER Virgin Media Staff
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Re: 1Gb Review
Don't blame me if CoD is massive these days
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23-10-2019, 19:38
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: 1Gb Review
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24-10-2019, 02:24
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cf.member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan
That was just a trial / technical test of a FTTP system. The gig1 system still uses copper.
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A copper centre conductor is used for internal coax but not for external between optical nodes and cabinets and between cabinets and homes.
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24-10-2019, 09:38
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#35
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R.I.P.
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Re: 1Gb Review
Can someone answer the question when will their 500mbb be released for all without the need for a silly bundle?
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24-10-2019, 12:57
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#36
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FORMER Virgin Media Staff
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Re: 1Gb Review
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Originally Posted by gunner45
A copper centre conductor is used for internal coax but not for external between optical nodes and cabinets and between cabinets and homes.
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I don't mean to argue semantics, but all the same the 8gbit trial from before was pure fibre, gig1 is still the same HFC network we all know and love, just upgraded.
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24-10-2019, 18:54
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Ran Away
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Re: 1Gb Review
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Originally Posted by alanbjames
Can someone answer the question when will their 500mbb be released for all without the need for a silly bundle?
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you would think it would be soon wouldn't you seeming as though they have already released 1gbit as standalone. You would think they have reached their saturation point with oomph bundle uptake so the only way they are going to get new subscribers/upgrades now is by making it available to all non-bundled tiers.
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25-10-2019, 13:09
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#38
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FORMER Virgin Media Staff
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Re: 1Gb Review
I suspect it's a capacity thing. 1gbit is only available in 3.1 areas, but I imagine 500mbit is pushing the capacity of the 3.0 network.
I wouldn't be surprised if stand-alone 500Mbit didn't come along until more areas were 3.1 enabled - and it'd come with a 3.1 Hub.
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25-10-2019, 14:20
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Ran Away
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Re: 1Gb Review
Yeah, it shouldnt take much longer. I think they were moving 20mbit customers over to 3.0 six months after 50mbits launched.
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25-10-2019, 15:00
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cf.geek
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Re: 1Gb Review
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Originally Posted by Kushan
I suspect it's a capacity thing. 1gbit is only available in 3.1 areas, but I imagine 500mbit is pushing the capacity of the 3.0 network.
I wouldn't be surprised if stand-alone 500Mbit didn't come along until more areas were 3.1 enabled - and it'd come with a 3.1 Hub.
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The online postcode checker still has my street down as 200Mb though it used to show 350Mb and I believe 500Mb and I am on the 500Mb speed, so I am guessing it is a capacity issue.
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25-10-2019, 18:39
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cf.member
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Re: 1Gb Review
The area I have moved to recently (new build) was limited to 200Mb but is now 350Mb. I assume 500 and the rest will come eventually at some point.
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27-10-2019, 00:15
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a giant headend
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Liverpool
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Re: 1Gb Review
Openreach at the entrance to my estate pulling fibre through the main ducts in preparation for FTTP. Allegedly BT Wholesale will be dropping the 1gb price to something fairly reasonable in the next few months.
Actual competition!
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27-10-2019, 07:55
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Ran Away
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Re: 1Gb Review
Sweet. Things are finally moving forward and equally for everyone.
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30-10-2019, 12:55
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#44
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FORMER Virgin Media Staff
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Location: Warrington
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Re: 1Gb Review
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Originally Posted by Skie
Openreach at the entrance to my estate pulling fibre through the main ducts in preparation for FTTP. Allegedly BT Wholesale will be dropping the 1gb price to something fairly reasonable in the next few months.
Actual competition!
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I'm waiting for OR to do the same, hopefully. Annoyingly when I look at the coverage map, I am surrounded by places with G.fast and FTTP plans (and literally on the edge of one) but my exact area has nothing. I'm hoping it'll be soon.
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Originally Posted by General Maximus
Yeah, it shouldnt take much longer. I think they were moving 20mbit customers over to 3.0 six months after 50mbits launched.
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I think your memory is lapsing again, Max. 50Mbit was launched at the end of 2008, as the first 3.0 service but the great migration to 3.0 (Which was marketed as speed doubling) was 2012. That's when 20meg moved "for free" to 30meg and required users to get upgraded to a 3.0 device.
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31-10-2019, 19:07
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#45
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Ran Away
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Re: 1Gb Review
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Originally Posted by Kushan
I think your memory is lapsing again, Max. 50Mbit was launched at the end of 2008, as the first 3.0 service but the great migration to 3.0 (Which was marketed as speed doubling) was 2012. That's when 20meg moved "for free" to 30meg and required users to get upgraded to a 3.0 device.
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you are partly correct, I remember quite vividly posting about it at the time and I remember that within 6 months of 50mbit being released that despite being advertised as stm free, they introduced stm on the tier because they were migrating 20mbits customers across as well which was going to place more load on the network. Luckily the existing subscribers were immune for another 9 months or so I think before it was inflicted upon us.
I have done a quick search to see if I can find any of my posts from the time talking about it and I have found one from March 2009. From the sounds of it they were moving 20mbit customers onto docsis 2.0 because 1.0 was at breaking point.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...2#post34759665
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