Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I don't think so. Boris brought only loyalists into the cabinet (and prolly the rest of the government).

I appreciate the honesty, a rare virtue at the moment

Gove’s prediction at lunchtime

12:26

MPs arriving to cast leadership votes

Pete Saull
Political Correspondent, BBC Westminster

As has been the case for several days now, a queue formed outside Committee Room 14 shortly before voting got under way.

Among the first to cast their ballot in this latest round is Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.

“Military punctuality”, quipped one of his colleagues.

Michael Gove also turns up early. He’s backing Kemi Badenoch, who’s currently in fourth place.

When asked if she's going to be knocked out today, Gove says, smiling, “she’s going to make it to the final two!”

[Mr K]

12 years of the Tories.

This is how they themselves think its going:-
https://twitter.com/i/status/1549337977704402954
Fairly honest I thought.

Well I suppose they could lie about it instead.
Then of course, you would complain even more.

Would Labour (or Liberals) really have done any better ?
The same issues would have existed (e.g. Russian Invasion, Covid).

The economic (and other) issues are worldwide, not unique to the UK.

[ianch99]

Crunch time: the ERG & Media power brokers behind the Truss campaign will now deploy tactics, both fair & foul to knock out Mordaunt. They are desperate to have a far right Brexit puppet in place to try and win the membership vote.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Paul

Well I suppose they could lie about it instead.
Then of course, you would complain even more.

Would Labour (or Liberals) really have done any better ?
The same issues would have existed (e.g. Russian Invasion, Covid).

The economic (and other) issues are worldwide, not unique to the UK.

The economic issues are also driven by UK decisions.
eg if we'd built more power capacity to replace the coal-fired power stations we've closed down then we wouldn't be at the mercy of global energy prices and their impact on inflation and consumer spending.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Gove’s prediction at lunchtime

The wise money is on Truss to win in the final contest.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

The wise money is on Truss to win in the final contest.

One clown as PM is enough, please not!

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

The wise money is on Truss to win in the final contest.

Oh jolly good. A former Lib Dem and a Remainer who is no good at public speaking and has no talent whatsoever.... The perfect choice.
(must be Sir Ks birthday !)
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[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Oh jolly good. A former Lib Dem and a Remainer who is no good at public speaking and has no talent whatsoever.... The perfect choice.
(must be Sir Ks birthday !)
.

I'm sure she's feeling confident and is out buying some more Maggie inspired fetching outfits as we speak.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

eg if we'd built more power capacity to replace the coal-fired power stations we've closed down then we wouldn't be at the mercy of global energy prices and their impact on inflation and consumer spending.

You mean like the nuclear power stations everyone seemed against ?
Of course, we could have just kept the coal fired ones going as well.

Funny how environmentists want everyone to use electric cars, but dont want the power stations it would need to keep them charged.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Paul

You mean like the nuclear power stations everyone seemed against ?
Of course, we could have just kept the coal fired ones going as well.

Funny how environmentists want everyone to use electric cars, but dont want the power stations it would need to keep them charged.

The Conservatives have been in power long enough to have sorted the issue out that they caused.

If you agree with Chris's post in the climate change thread, you'll no doubt appreciate why keeping the coal-fired power stations was not an option. But closing them and not replacing that capacity and hoping the market would deliver was a leap of faith too far.

A lot of posts I see about electric cars talk about how they charge them from solar panels at no marginal cost but I suspect most aren't so lucky.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

One clown as PM is enough, please not!

none of them are any good Andrew whoever it is it gonna be very bad only Sunak not going on about tax cuts what they gonna cut to pay for them NHS all ready on it knees ect

[Sephiroth]

This could become a major cluster-whatsit. If it's Sunak v Truss, we will have nothing new just the same old faces. Sunak is everything that Truss isn't but still isn't copmiited to the UKK, imo. Too rich to feel the pain.

Truss is just the wrong person for the world stage at PM level. Can't hold herself on the podium and does whatever it takes to further here career rather than speak from conviction.

I hope to attend a hustings event in London shortly and would like to put to her (if she's in the last two) questions about energy imdependence, food production and where's all the money coming from.

And the cheese. Don’t forget to ask her where all the cheese is coming from.