Updated: 78 Year old pensioner cleared of killing burglar - Page 4

OLD BOY · 06-04-2018, 20:40

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Originally Posted by nomadking

They would've had to arrest him in order to ask the questions and in case the story turned out different.

Why can't they ask questions inside the victim's own house?

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Originally Posted by Mick

I get that, but that can still be done without being arrested.

Agreed, Mick.

**Mick** · 06-04-2018, 20:47

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Why can't they ask questions inside the victim's own house?

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Agreed, Mick.

Yup. A person can be asked to come down to the Police Station, or the Police can come to the persons home and ask to make a statement.

Meanwhile, while the targeted house is still a crime scene, they can do their own internal investigations, assess the injuries on the dead body and any potential injuries on the victim(s).

As I said, the pensioner did not set out to go murder someone that night, so it's not murder, the scumbag and trouble came to him, in his own home, burglar came off worse.

**Damien** · 06-04-2018, 20:51

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Why can't they ask questions inside the victim's own house?

Not an expert in policing but it's usually the case you have to go to a police station upon arrest. An arrest also gives you certain rights and I think the police have to arrest someone at some point in proceedings.

They weren't asking for a witness statement. They were investigating someone being killed and he was the suspect.

Dude111 · 06-04-2018, 20:57

Im glad he was cleared!!

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Originally Posted by Stephen

So what every pensioner is allowed to kill an intruder in the home an get away with it?

Even if there is no evidence that their lives may have been in danger?

If someone is intruding in YOUR HOUSE Steve its called PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY..... You can shoot w/o asking questions... THEY SHOULD NOT BE THERE!!! (If they got shot its thier own fault)

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

It's different in the UK there is no money involved .

Im not surprised.... No country is as greedy as the US is!!

**Mick** · 06-04-2018, 21:11

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Originally Posted by Dude111

Im glad he was cleared!!

If someone is intruding in YOUR HOUSE Steve its called PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY..... You can shoot w/o asking questions... THEY SHOULD NOT BE THERE!!! (If they got shot its thier own fault)

Im not surprised.... No country is as greedy as the US is!!

What is the exact law in the U.S, is it you can legally shoot to kill a trespasser anywhere they step foot on your property regardless if you are in harms way or not ?

Sirius · 06-04-2018, 22:14

Excellent news that he will face no further action, lets hope the coward who left his **** m8 to die is found and jailed.

07-04-2018, 00:55

It differs by state in the U.S Mick but most will not arrest a citizen that shoots an intruder in their home but if they are leaving the property it's best not to follow them.

RichardCoulter · 07-04-2018, 00:56

I was once told something by a carer about the elderly persons home where he used to work.

They had been having problems with burglars trying to get into the bedrooms of the residents in the dead of night and on one occasion were successful.

Unfortunately for him, the man whose room he got into was a war veteran from WWII who had developed something like dementia. He kept reliving the war and thought that the burglar was a German soldier; needless to say he ended up getting hurt.

Apparently, such conditions can invoke unusual strength.

Dude111 · 07-04-2018, 09:19

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

It differs by state in the U.S Mick but most will not arrest a citizen that shoots an intruder in their home but if they are leaving the property it's best not to follow them.

Yup Mick it varies but in most the people who live there have a right to shoot if an intruder enters....... (Especially in Texas)

OLD BOY · 07-04-2018, 11:22

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Originally Posted by Damien

Not an expert in policing but it's usually the case you have to go to a police station upon arrest. An arrest also gives you certain rights and I think the police have to arrest someone at some point in proceedings.

They weren't asking for a witness statement. They were investigating someone being killed and he was the suspect.

It should not have been necessary to arrest him. It was pretty clear what had happened here from the start. He should have been cautioned and questioned in his own home, then they should have removed the body and made sure he was ok for the rest of the night. However, he should not have been taken to the police station - absolutely no need for that in a case like this.

RichardCoulter · 08-04-2018, 05:46

I wonder who was looking after his wife who has dementia for the 24 hours that he was at the police station?

Must admit that I did wonder if there would be any repercussions for him after this. It's now sadly been confirmed on the news that he daren't go home after fears of attacks by associates of the dead burglar and is in hiding somewhere.

Poor man, he probably got ready for bed as he had done in his home hundreds of times before and then, in the blink of an eyelid, his life has been changed forever.

Dude111 · 08-04-2018, 11:13

Thankfully he was cleared

Julian · 08-04-2018, 12:39

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Must admit that I did wonder if there would be any repercussions for him after this. It's now sadly been confirmed on the news that he daren't go home after fears of attacks by associates of the dead burglar and is in hiding somewhere.

Indeed, there are probably a few driveway jobs put on hold while he is
being hunted....

RichardCoulter · 10-04-2018, 16:29

It's now been reported that actual threats have been made against the gentleman concerned and that they have been put into a police safe house with round the clock police protection.

In addition, the crimes committed by the deceased include robbing other homes and swindling elderly people out of their life savings.

In an outrageously distasteful act, friends and family of the deceased have been placing tributes, cards, flowers etc outside the house!

In the night, someone has thrown them to the ground (including those placed by his children).

It has been argued that everybody has a right to grieve and that this act will cause more upset to his young children who may not even know what their father gets up to, all they know is that their father is dead.

What do others think about this?

Hom3r · 10-04-2018, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Stephen

So what every pensioner is allowed to kill an intruder in the home an get away with it?

Even if there is no evidence that their lives may have been in danger?

I could have been worse, In the US 2 burglers suffered for five days after breaking into the house of notorious gay rapist.