Coronavirus (OLD)

If it is an age issue then it's the teachers who will be at risk..

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Maggy

If it is an age issue then it's the teachers who will be at risk..

Not really, you're back to widespread community transmission with large groups at risk.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Much the opinion of Boris' govt when they ignored scientists and applied lockdown weeks too late, causing many extra deaths.
All a matter of opinion or science or politics ?

What? That's rubbish. The likes of Whitty were advocating a later, not an earlier lockdown. He's admitted as much.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What? That's rubbish. The likes of Whitty were advocating a later, not an earlier lockdown. He's admitted as much.

Quote your source? Because..


England's chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty claimed there were 'operational difficulties' that made it difficult to shut the country down in a week.

During a virtual grilling with MPs, Professor Whitty denied there was no 'huge delay' between ministers being advised to implement the draconian measures and actually following through on the actions.

He appeared to contradict his fellow adviser Sir Jeremy Farrar, who told the health select committee moments earlier he 'believed lockdown was enforced too late' and 'should have come earlier', in a sign of a rift between the UK's top experts.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Coming back to the schoole side of things....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...pread-22502202

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Or is there, you may have a point with primary schools, however, secondary schools the path seems to be a bit more unclear

Maybe, maybe not, that article tells you very little and I am always sceptical of unnamed "sources".

We'll see when the report is released. Both my kids are in Primary, so even if there are other mitigations required for Secondary, my two will be in Class come September

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Quote your source? Because..


England's chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty claimed there were 'operational difficulties' that made it difficult to shut the country down in a week.

During a virtual grilling with MPs, Professor Whitty denied there was no 'huge delay' between ministers being advised to implement the draconian measures and actually following through on the actions.

He appeared to contradict his fellow adviser Sir Jeremy Farrar, who told the health select committee moments earlier he 'believed lockdown was enforced too late' and 'should have come earlier', in a sign of a rift between the UK's top experts.

Indeed, and because of the lack of adequate systems in place, he advocated a later lockdown. Whitty also said on the BBC that the public acceptance of the lockdown measures would have eroded at precisely the wrong time if lockdown was introduced too early.

We’ve just had the final update email from our high school which reopened for staff on Monday and for pupils starting tomorrow. There’s a phased reintroduction of year groups through the rest of the week. The instructions for getting off the school bus, using the lunch hall, moving through the school and even signing out/being picked up for a medical appointment are extremely thorough. We will just have to see how things go.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Indeed, and because of the lack of adequate systems in place, he advocated a later lockdown. Whitty also said on the BBC that the public acceptance of the lockdown measures would have eroded at precisely the wrong time if lockdown was introduced too early.

So, you've gone from the 'likes of Whitty' to just 'Whitty' when provided with evidence that shows your original post to be wrong.

Originally Posted by Pierre

yes and extra restrictions in Yorkshire and Manchester based on naff all.

The Preston example you cite.

The infection rate has "jumped" from 0.022% to a whopping 0.043%

What's missing in this "pandemic" is a little perspective.

Cases have remained below 1000 since 27th June. Which is below 0.0015% of population consistently for over a month.

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No, she was fine after a couple of days just a summer cold, Cough and sore throat...............or was it? we'll never know.

Well, it’s what one of the countries which seems to have minimised the infections/deaths would do...

https://apple.news/AovzFLX2gSYChs4TfbmXW3A

New Zealand has put its largest city back into lockdown after recording four new Covid-19 cases, ending a 102-day streak without a local infection.

A three-day lockdown was swiftly imposed in Auckland after the cases were confirmed.

The four new cases are all members of a single family. None had travelled recently.

The restrictions will come into effect on Wednesday, as authorities scramble to trace contacts of the family.

Auckland residents will be asked to stay at home, large gatherings will be banned, non-essential businesses will be shut, and some social-distancing restrictions will be reintroduced in the rest of the country.

New Zealand has fared better than other countries, recording 1,220 confirmed cases and 22 deaths since the virus arrived in late February.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I think I'll leave it for a while Vlad.

Perhaps those of our forum members who are less critical of Russia will participate in the trials and report back.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So, you've gone from the 'likes of Whitty' to just 'Whitty' when provided with evidence that shows your original post to be wrong.

What exactly was wrong with it?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, it’s what one of the countries which seems to have minimised the infections/deaths would do...

https://apple.news/AovzFLX2gSYChs4TfbmXW3A

Well imo that’s ridiculous.

But I know nothing, just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well imo that’s ridiculous.

But I know nothing, just my opinion.

Thats what media driven paranoia does for you - you would think its the black death the way its going atm.

[Carth]

I doubt very much that we're allowed to call it that anymore

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Maggy

If it is an age issue then it's the teachers who will be at risk..

Or the parents/grandparents they bring the virus home to. The kids themselves will be fine. When mine were at school they'd always bring a September cold back home. They'd be over it in a day or 2, however I'd have it worse and longer.

Not sure what the solution, kids have to get back to school, but there will be an impact on the transmission rate more widely. Pubs and restaurants are unnecessary at the end of the day, breakouts have occurred as a result of reopening . They might have to close again if we want schools open. The eat out for £10 off, plus possible life threatening virus, hasn't drawn me back to them.